when does "salvation" occur?

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

when does "salvation" occur?

1. at repentance/sinner's prayer of faith
2. at water baptism in jesus name
3. at spirit baptism, speaking w/tongues
4. enduring to the end

I am not sure about this enduring to the end stuff. If that is truly the case no one could ever really testify that, "I am saved" I am only trying, for that matter the same could be said about being sanctified and holy too.

We can never BE we can only keep trying

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I am not sure about this enduring to the end stuff. If that is truly the case no one could ever really testify that, "I am saved" I am only trying, for that matter the same could be said about being sanctified and holy too.

We can never BE we can only keep trying

Mt 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.


Kinda blows that once saved always saved doctrine right out of the water, huh?

Originally Posted by Rico

Mt 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.


Kinda blows that once saved always saved doctrine right out of the water, huh?

I wasn't talking about once saved, always saved. I am talking about David saying "Restore unto me the joy of my salvation." He didn't say, "Restore unto me the joy of my effort toward salvation."

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I wasn't talking about once saved, always saved. I am talking about David saying "Restore unto me the joy of my salvation." He didn't say, "Restore unto me the joy of my effort toward salvation."

Sorry, Bro. I wasn't trying to say you believe in the once saved always saved lie. It's just what I thought of when the "endureth" scripture came to mind. Sorry 'bout the confusion. I forget people can't read my mind and don't always know why I am responding to their posts.