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Old 08-05-2007, 07:13 PM
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Hmmm I would like to know what group this is. Are they Oneness?
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:13 PM
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Ok so I believe in the death of the wicked in Hell myself. Thats why I am asking who and where. If you are not comfortable putting it here send me a pm. thanks, michael
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:36 AM
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Ok so I believe in the death of the wicked in Hell myself. Thats why I am asking who and where. If you are not comfortable putting it here send me a pm. thanks, michael
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But tell me, you believe this?! Is it Universalist in origin?!
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:47 AM
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But tell me, you believe this?! Is it Universalist in origin?!
I dont necessarily believe one will suffer in the lake however many years they lived. Some may suffer a very long time. However long it is according to Yeshua their Lake of Fire experience will end in their death.

28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matt. 10:28

So this is NOT Universalism but annihilation. It is taught in both Testaments.


4: Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Ezekiel 18:4

23: For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

I taught the "immortal soul" doctrine myself for 16 years. A friend shared the truth with me and I began to study it. Very shortly I saw the error of what I had believed.

I am aware of two Apostolic Churches that teach this. Also several Apostolic Teachers. I am sure there must be more.

When I met Evangelist Benincasa years ago he told me that he and other Churches he knew held this.
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:04 AM
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I dont necessarily believe one will suffer in the lake however many years they lived. Some may suffer a very long time. However long it is according to Yeshua their Lake of Fire experience will end in their death.

28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matt. 10:28

So this is NOT Universalism but annihilation. It is taught in both Testaments.


4: Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Ezekiel 18:4

23: For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

I taught the "immortal soul" doctrine myself for 16 years. A friend shared the truth with me and I began to study it. Very shortly I saw the error of what I had believed.

I am aware of two Apostolic Churches that teach this. Also several Apostolic Teachers. I am sure there must be more.

When I met Evangelist Benincasa years ago he told me that he and other Churches he knew held this.
Is this speaking of natural death, as in dying, or a spiritual death, as in cut off from the presence of God?!
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:39 AM
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Is this speaking of natural death, as in dying, or a spiritual death, as in cut off from the presence of God?!
Look at what Yeshua said:

28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matt. 10:28

The context is what happens to the SOUL and the body in Hell.

Once this is understood the rest will follow. And yes I will be interested in what Bro. Beni says about this.
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:44 AM
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What is the deal about saying what Church you are talking about? Are they ashamed of what they believe? Since you brought up the topic it seems reasonable you should name them. I doubt anyone here would try to contact them except myself.
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