Would you attend a church that did not require tithes?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Rico

Did He or didn't He fulfill all the law?

Rico is correct if Jesus did not pay tithes they would have had a geniune charge that he broke the law. They had nothing.

He told Peter "Render to God the things that are God's" Just like taxes were a specified amount so does God.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Rico is correct if Jesus did not pay tithes they would have had a geniune charge that he broke the law. They had nothing.

He told Peter "Render to God the things that are God's" Just like taxes were a specified amount so does God.

Brother, people will say and do anything to not pay their tithes, even if that means making a liar out of the word of God. I am sure you know this by now, though.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, people will say and do anything to not pay their tithes, even if that means making a liar out of the word of God. I am sure you know this by now, though.

Well this people you are talking about is me.

I am a person that is seeking truth.

Tithes as you claim and teach as a command or law is not bible.

Too many people claiming truth; when truth is mixed with traditions and man made order.

Jesus completed the law on the cross Thur death and resurrection.

And I am sure there are many other things that were law that he specifically did not perform.


Wake up and smell the truth. All that is taught by Apostolic is not bible truth. Period.

And you your self know that Rico.

Give me a brake;I am trying to say God is a lier to get out of paying tithes.
What is wrong with you man?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by COOPER

Well this people you are talking about is me.

I am a person that is seeking truth.

Tithes as you claim and teach as a command or law is not bible.

Too many people claiming truth; when truth is mixed with traditions and man made order.

Jesus completed the law on the cross Thur death and resurrection.

And I am sure there are many other things that were law that he specifically did not perform.


Wake up and smell the truth. All that is taught by Apostolic is not bible truth. Period.

And you your self know that Rico.

Coop, I've said it before and will say it again: tithing is an excellent principle and a practice God will honor, as He has done in the past. When He walked this earth, Jesus fulfilled ALL of the law. That means he tithed, just like everyone else. Why would He need to reteach an already established practice? People like you aren't interested in the truth, in my opinion. All you are interested in is tearing down as much of God's church as you can, and that is why you start these kinds of threads.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Rico

Coop, I've said it before and will say it again: tithing is an excellent principle and a practice God will honor, as He has done in the past. When He walked this earth, Jesus fulfilled ALL of the law. That means he tithed, just like everyone else. Why would He need to reteach an already established practice? People like you aren't interested in the truth, in my opinion. All you are interested in is tearing down as much of God's church as you can, and that is why you start these kinds of threads.

OK Rico, Circumcision was law, Sabbath was Law. Do you still live it?

What if Jesus Tithed, big deal. It's not something required any more now.

Tithes are now more required than Sabbath, circumcision or meat offerings.

The pass over was law, Jesus did it. Do you?

Do you do everything Jesus did? No....you don't.

Whats wrong with you? Why would I be interested in tearing down Gods church?

Are you insane or just an insulter and enjoy tearing down a brother with false accusations?

Brother my brother?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by COOPER

OK Rico, Circumcision was law, Sabbath was Law. Do you still live it?

What if Jesus Tithed, big deal. It's not something required any more now.

Tithes are now more required than Sabbath, circumcision or meat offerings.

The pass over was law, Jesus did it. Do you?

Do you do everything Jesus did? No....you don't.

Whats wrong with you? Why would I be interested in tearing down Gods church?

Are you insane or just an insulter and enjoy tearing down a brother with false accusations?

Brother my brother?

Cooper, there is nothing "wrong" with me. The Lord showed me a few weeks back that there are people on this site looking to tear down as much of God's church as they can. The majority of threads they start are against one Church practice or another, all in the guise of "finding truth." I feel like you happen to be one of the people He was talking to me about. Your anti-anything UPC thread starting history marks you as someone I believe is interested in tearing down God's church. If you want to be perceived in a different light then quit starting so many "anti" type of threads. I am distancing myself from people I feel fall into this category. Don't be surprised if I don't respond to many of your posts in the future, seeing as how I have let the cat out of the bag. Take care.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Rico

Cooper, there is nothing "wrong" with me. The Lord showed me a few weeks back that there are people on this site looking to tear down as much of God's church as they can. The majority of threads they start are against one Church practice or another, all in the guise of "finding truth." I feel like you happen to be one of the people He was talking to me about. Your anti-anything UPC thread starting history marks you as someone I believe is interested in tearing down God's church. If you want to be perceived in a different light then quit starting so many "anti" type of threads. I am distancing myself from people I feel fall into this category. Don't be surprised if I don't respond to many of your posts in the future, seeing as how I have let the cat out of the bag. Take care.

Can you feel the love.

I do not believe God showed you jack diddly.

I believe you are anti-Cooper.

This thread has nothing to do with anti-UPC.....

Oh my gahhh

Cooper this....Cooper that....the Lord showed me....Blah...blah..Blah....

Cooper .....Cooper.....Cooper........

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by Rico

Coop, I've said it before and will say it again: tithing is an excellent principle and a practice God will honor, as He has done in the past. When He walked this earth, Jesus fulfilled ALL of the law. That means he tithed, just like everyone else. Why would He need to reteach an already established practice? People like you aren't interested in the truth, in my opinion. All you are interested in is tearing down as much of God's church as you can, and that is why you start these kinds of threads.

Originally Posted by Amos

Has your great pursuit of truth improved your prayer life?

Your soul-winning efforts?

Your fruit of the Spirit?

If so, it is very difficult to tell by your posts.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the kind you are serving up isn't too appealing.

Excellent observation.

Originally Posted by COOPER

Can you feel the love.

I do not believe God showed you jack diddly.

I believe you are anti-Cooper.

This thread has nothing to do with anti-UPC.....

Oh my gahhh

Cooper this....Cooper that....the Lord showed me....Blah...blah..Blah....

Cooper .....Cooper.....Cooper........

And another point for Amos . . .

Originally Posted by COOPER

Hey, the guy called me out.

If posting how I felt about it is not right....then what is?

I try to very careful not call some one out and attack or be-little.

And would not say GOD showed me.....and YOU are......anti----blah blah blah.

I mean, that is attacking.......that is not allowed on aff.

I do not care if God showed anything about some else on AFF; you just do not go posting it and calling some one out by name.

Rico called me out by name in an very Negative post.

And then said God, showed him.....

He was wrong. It's an attack on me. That is wrong.

Originally Posted by COOPER

Well this people you are talking about is me.

I am a person that is seeking truth.

Tithes as you claim and teach as a command or law is not bible.

Too many people claiming truth; when truth is mixed with traditions and man made order.

Jesus completed the law on the cross Thur death and resurrection.

And I am sure there are many other things that were law that he specifically did not perform.


Wake up and smell the truth. All that is taught by Apostolic is not bible truth. Period.

And you your self know that Rico.

Give me a brake;I am trying to say God is a lier to get out of paying tithes.
What is wrong with you man?

Rico,

I have noticed and felt the same (red, above) things. There is, frankly, risk in engaging this fray. Not only is engagement unnecessary, but there is very little benefit of "proclaiming alternate views" for innocent bystanders. It's not to say that taking a stand is not commendable, but that this is not a very effective medium in which to make a stand. Perhaps it might be possible to win a non-Apostolic to the truth via the internet, but it is even more unlikely to happen here at AFF. Sinners must be shown love in the real world, not cyberspace. AFF regulars are highly unlikely to be undecided on most things.

What is manifesting itself here on AFF doesn't readily categorize itself as 'sinners,' and I daresay that in the flesh we and those we debate are usually talking past each other, but in the spirit world more significant things are taking place. People can achieve a state of mind and spirit from which only they themselves can initiate the return journey. I have observed what goes on here, and it goes beyond iron sharpening iron and faith being strengthened by challenges.

I offer you a thought experiment to perform for you entertainment and edification: Ask yourself, when reading a post, 'what is this person attempting to obtain for themselves with this post?,' and 'what is this person attempting to obtain from others with this post?' Let's not mistake loquaciousness for influence, and certainty for accuracy. In other words, some come here because they aren't quick enough to kick the cat.

Some of the junk on here should just be ignored. Some of it warrants rebuttal. My "new revelation" is that a good first rebuttal or position can be left to stand as it is. The "further clarifications" tend to have the opposite effect - they muddy the waters even more. Those in the know, and those on their way, will be able to perceive who has a steady demeanor and who goes at it a-flailing.

Hold fast to the faith with which you've been imbued. God has more for you, and too much internet is bad for your eyes and wastes time.

You're gonna make it!

God Bless you, Rico.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by COOPER

Well this people you are talking about is me.

I am a person that is seeking truth.

Tithes as you claim and teach as a command or law is not bible.

Too many people claiming truth; when truth is mixed with traditions and man made order.

Jesus completed the law on the cross Thur death and resurrection.

And I am sure there are many other things that were law that he specifically did not perform.


Wake up and smell the truth. All that is taught by Apostolic is not bible truth. Period.

And you your self know that Rico.

Give me a brake;I am trying to say God is a lier to get out of paying tithes.
What is wrong with you man?

Has your great pursuit of truth improved your prayer life?

Your soul-winning efforts?

Your fruit of the Spirit?

If so, it is very difficult to tell by your posts.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the kind you are serving up isn't too appealing.

[ILG]

I wouldn't attend any heavy handed church. Preaching tithes is one thing....requiring them is something else altogether. I would attend a church that did not require it. But I think it should be taught as a biblical principle or concept.