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08-16-2007, 04:33 PM
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Why did Peter decide, in that most desperate of moments, to slice off somebody's ear? How was that supposed to help? Was that so the guard wouldn't hear them whispering their escape plans?
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Well if you read EBs posts Peter either lacked faith and or just did not pray 
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08-16-2007, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Well if you read EBs posts Peter either lacked faith and or just did not pray |
Peter was NOT even converted when he did that. Remember, this was pre-pentecost. Try again. 
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08-16-2007, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lost and Found
Peter was NOT even converted when he did that. Remember, this was pre-pentecost. Try again. |
So? Did Peter pray? Did he have faith?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-16-2007, 04:40 PM
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So? Did Peter pray? Did he have faith?
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Sorry, I thought you would understand "pre-pentecost." What I meant by this was Peter did not have Jesus ruling in his heart through the Holy Ghost when he did that. Is that clearer?
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08-16-2007, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lost and Found
Sorry, I thought you would understand "pre-pentecost." What I meant by this was Peter did not have Jesus ruling in his heart through the Holy Ghost when he did that. Is that clearer?
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What does that have to do with what EB said and my post? He made the point first about faith and prayer and all I did was rhetorically talk about Peter...did Peter pray before Pentecost? Did he have faith before Pentecost? Once again you seem to be missing peoples points probably by not fully reading what is being discussed
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-16-2007, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
What does that have to do with what EB said and my post? He made the point first about faith and prayer and all I did was rhetorically talk about Peter...did Peter pray before Pentecost? Did he have faith before Pentecost? Once again you seem to be missing peoples points probably by not fully reading what is being discussed
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Prax, my posts was about Peter using his sword.  If you look back you will see that I even quoted that with my statement. Maybe you are missing the posts? 
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08-16-2007, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lost and Found
Prax, my posts was about Peter using his sword. If you look back you will see that I even quoted that with my statement. Maybe you are missing the posts? |
That's nice, but me....Im talking about what EB said and pointing out that if EB is right then Peter must not have had faith and or prayed.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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