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[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Did Peter pray for the sick? Did Peter walk on water? Did he cast out demons and heal the sick?

BTW what exactly did you mean about me backsliding?

Praxeas did Peter deny Jesus? The answer anyone would give you would be YES, but not you, you have to be right. So in being right and wanting me to be wrong you will weasel around the correct answer and say that Peter prayed for the sick and walked on water? Peter walked on water? Was that an honest answer Praxeas? Are you saying Peter had a strong faith, and was doubtless? Well once again Jesus doesn't agree with you philosophy.

Mat 14:24-31

"But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary. And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea. And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear. But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid. And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?"

Also I posted Jesus and Peter in the garden because contrary to your philosophy Peter was not prayed up or full of faith. Peter in his weak condition tried to change the situation through deadly force and was rebuked by Jesus. No prayer and weak faith caused Peter to doubt the situation and the plan that Jesus had already informed him about. Jesus taught His followers that He was to be arrested and that He was to be killed.
Hence the reason for Jesus to pray in the garden and that Jesus compelled His followers also to continue in prayer. When Peter learns of the teaching that Jesus was to be killed, Peter rebukes Jesus, Jesus turns an rebukes Peter and calls Peter, “Satan”. When they are all in the garden Peter falls asleep? Jesus is asking them to continue in His watch. At the Passover meal Jesus warns Peter that Satan wished to sift Peter as wheat, and that Peter would also deny Jesus three times. Praxaes I have never met anyone Pentecostal, or even Baptist who ever thought Peter was a pillar of faith prior to Pentecost.

This is why I made the statement that it seems to me that you would blow off the obvious and information that is Bible 1O1 just in an effort to prove me wrong, hence the statement that you shouldn’t backslide in your great zeal to prove me wrong. You want to start fights Praxeas, I suggest getting your gun and buying a plane ticket to the Middle East.

Mat 26:40-41

"And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour? Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Praxeas did Peter deny Jesus? The answer anyone would give you would be YES, but not you, you have to be right. So in being right and wanting me to be wrong you will weasel around the correct answer and say that Peter prayed for the sick and walked on water? Peter walked on water? Was that an honest answer Praxeas? Are you saying Peter had a strong faith, and was doubtless? Well once again Jesus doesn't agree with you philosophy.

Mat 14:24-31

"But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary. And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea. And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear. But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid. And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?"

Also I posted Jesus and Peter in the garden because contrary to your philosophy Peter was not prayed up or full of faith. Peter in his weak condition tried to change the situation through deadly force and was rebuked by Jesus. No prayer and weak faith caused Peter to doubt the situation and the plan that Jesus had already informed him about. Jesus taught His followers that He was to be arrested and that He was to be killed.
Hence the reason for Jesus to pray in the garden and that Jesus compelled His followers also to continue in prayer. When Peter learns of the teaching that Jesus was to be killed, Peter rebukes Jesus, Jesus turns an rebukes Peter and calls Peter, “Satan”. When they are all in the garden Peter falls asleep? Jesus is asking them to continue in His watch. At the Passover meal Jesus warns Peter that Satan wished to sift Peter as wheat, and that Peter would also deny Jesus three times. Praxaes I have never met anyone Pentecostal, or even Baptist who ever thought Peter was a pillar of faith prior to Pentecost.

This is why I made the statement that it seems to me that you would blow off the obvious and information that is Bible 1O1 just in an effort to prove me wrong, hence the statement that you shouldn’t backslide in your great zeal to prove me wrong. You want to start fights Praxeas, I suggest getting your gun and buying a plane ticket to the Middle East.

Mat 26:40-41

"And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour? Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Man talk about focusing on the negative! Wow!!

Peter did walk on the water. That takes FAITH!!! Have you tried it? Were you successful? Probably not. Why you lack FAITH!!

Same as most of us.

Did Peter have issues of doubt? Yes he did. Same as you and me.

There are times we just have greater faith than at others. But that doesn't mean we never ever had any faith.

Good grief!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esther

Man talk about focusing on the negative! Wow!!

Peter did walk on the water. That takes FAITH!!! Have you tried it? Were you successful? Probably not. Why you lack FAITH!!

Same as most of us.

Did Peter have issues of doubt? Yes he did. Same as you and me.

There are times we just have greater faith than at others. But that doesn't mean we never ever had any faith.

Good grief!

Yeah right.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Praxeas did Peter deny Jesus? The answer anyone would give you would be YES, but not you, you have to be right. So in being right and wanting me to be wrong you will weasel around the correct answer and say that Peter prayed for the sick and walked on water? Peter walked on water? Was that an honest answer Praxeas? Are you saying Peter had a strong faith, and was doubtless? Well once again Jesus doesn't agree with you philosophy.

Mat 14:24-31

"But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary. And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea. And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear. But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid. And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?"

Also I posted Jesus and Peter in the garden because contrary to your philosophy Peter was not prayed up or full of faith. Peter in his weak condition tried to change the situation through deadly force and was rebuked by Jesus. No prayer and weak faith caused Peter to doubt the situation and the plan that Jesus had already informed him about. Jesus taught His followers that He was to be arrested and that He was to be killed.
Hence the reason for Jesus to pray in the garden and that Jesus compelled His followers also to continue in prayer. When Peter learns of the teaching that Jesus was to be killed, Peter rebukes Jesus, Jesus turns an rebukes Peter and calls Peter, “Satan”. When they are all in the garden Peter falls asleep? Jesus is asking them to continue in His watch. At the Passover meal Jesus warns Peter that Satan wished to sift Peter as wheat, and that Peter would also deny Jesus three times. Praxaes I have never met anyone Pentecostal, or even Baptist who ever thought Peter was a pillar of faith prior to Pentecost.

This is why I made the statement that it seems to me that you would blow off the obvious and information that is Bible 1O1 just in an effort to prove me wrong, hence the statement that you shouldn’t backslide in your great zeal to prove me wrong. You want to start fights Praxeas, I suggest getting your gun and buying a plane ticket to the Middle East.

Mat 26:40-41

"And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour? Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

EB has asserted that of ALL the people in the bible before Pentecost....Peter was faithless and never prayed. Amazing and yet rather than prove it he resorts to trying to attack me personally. If he was faithless he never could have walked on water or healed the sick or prayed.

Failing as Peter did does not prove he did not have faith nor that he never prayed before Pentecost as you asserted.

Then EB resorts to another logical fallacy whereby he changes the argument from Peter having faith and praying before Pentecost to Peter being a pillar of faith before Pentecost. And still he has not provided one verse whatsoever that proves Peter had no faith and never prayed before Pentecost