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Originally Posted by Praxeas
This is talking about retribution. Pay back. Macho mas macho....gang banger shoots your neighborhood up...you go to the same...Man rapes you wife, you go hunt him down and kill him or beat him up.
Vengeance, retribution...
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Rendering evil for evil is talking about the same thing as in
Matthew 5:38-39 when the cheek is hit it is left to you to react.
Same thing when someone steals your coat you are to also give him your cloak. If the military compels you to go a mile you're to go two. You see how this all unfolds to be non-reactive. If they even take from you (property) you are to give them what you have left.
Can you show where vengeance means there is a space of time lapse before you retaliate? You keep bringing this word up as if there is some time passing between the time of assault and your reacting you have committed evil. If you shoot your attacker at the moment of crime then you are safe and have committed no offence.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
We are not talking either about someone that has "trasngressed against you"...like he stepped on your daisies and you blow his head off.
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Could you show me how you get that from
Matthew 5:38-48? Also do you know what's being said in
Romans 12:14?
Rom 12:14 Bless them which PERSECUTE you: bless, and curse not.
The Greek word that is used for the English word PERSECUTE means to pursue (in a hostile manner). How do you separate personal (single person) defense and plural (family members) defense? What about countries? Iraq, Saddam Hussein, Osama Ben Laden? By your measure we are totally going after them "after the fact" so every solider (by your measure) is a murderer?
Please show me your interpretation,
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
We are talking about someone that is breaking into your house and you are home...or someone that is attacking your wife and or kids or an estranged husband is about to stomp on the head of his wife and cave it in and you have the chance to stop him by some physical means....does not necessarily have to be killing, but any sort of physical means.
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Bingo! There it is Praxeas, you just said it. I have stop more garbage from going down with verbal commands and hand actions. I have pried people off of each without even leaving a bruise. I have used my body as a human shield between myself and an angry dude trying to stab his girlfriend in a bar.
Prayer and the power of the Holy Ghost goes a long way. The same power that casts out devils and binds a demon possessed person without you having to choke or throttle them. Is the same power that can enable you to stop something bad from happening. I seen it happen, I've had it proven to me by the man who baptized me in Jesus name. He had a drunk employee attack him in his living room and I went to stop the man, my minister friend said Brother Dominic don't you do anything, and with that old Brother Harris took his large hand and laid it on the man's head and prayed in Jesus name, and the man went sober. Stone cold sober. It works!
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Just realize that sometimes death happens too.
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Now wouldn't that be a shame? I know police officers who work here in Miami and Fort Lauderdale, and they always tell me "Brother Benincasa, I pray everyday that I am never in a position that I would have to use my weapon."
I tell them what I have told you here. There's no way around it.
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