Sister, in all sincerity, I do so respect you trying to stand for what you believe. But, there is no way the scripture you gave can in any way be used to prove that Paul meant a man is to kill another man.
If you would read further into Paul’s criteria for an Overseer, you would find Paul’s emphasis is on these men being Spiritual leaders. The ‘rule’ Paul speaks of is that these men both acknowledge and demonstrate the type traits that are agreeable with Christlikeness; both at home and in the company of other believers. That is what Paul was dealing with. Nothing more.
At no time did Paul mention or hint at anything closely related to what you are saying. Like I said, your usage of this passage is out of context. Sister, there is not a credible Bible commentary you can offer that says what you do about this passage. Not one.
What? No scripture? I'm shocked!
And Paul isn't speaking about spiritual leaders, but the men who have families, if you read the scripture I posted.
Did you even bother to look up the Strong's definition for 'rule'?
As to your first statement, you are correct, but if one is protecting their family, that protect should include anything possible in the realm of reality.
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Didn't need any scripture to show your post was unscriptural.
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And Paul isn't speaking about spiritual leaders, but the men who have families, if you read the scripture I posted.
Says who? In context please show this.
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Did you even bother to look up the Strong's definition for 'rule'?
Yep, sure did. It was just as you say. But it was not in accordance with how you applied it. If you are a proofreader you should understand how such issues work.
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As to your first statement, you are correct, but if one is protecting their family, that protect should include anything possible in the realm of reality.
Sister, a Christian does not walk by the "realm of reality." Christians are to only walk within the reality Jesus establishes in His Word. He is the only WAY, TRUTH, and LIFE! That is the whole subject here. Not what 'we believe' or 'we think,' but 'what does Jesus say'?
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Didn't need any scripture to show your post was unscriptural.
I post scripture, and you can just say that it's unscriptural....ooooook.
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Says who? In context please show this.
It's speaking of a man ruling his home. This isn't speaking about spiritual leaders only. Read the text, I shouldn't have to post it here.
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Yep, sure did. It was just as you say. But it was not in accordance with how you applied it. If you are a proofreader you should understand how such issues work.
But only cause you say so, right?
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Sister, a Christian does not walk by the "realm of reality." Christians are to only walk within the reality Jesus establishes in His Word. He is the only WAY, TRUTH, and LIFE! That is the whole subject here. Not what 'we believe' or 'we think,' but 'what does Jesus say'?
Sure....go ahead and think those words when the emergency arises....I mean, Jesus had no fear, therefore you won't, right?
Reality exists, even in the Christian world.
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