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Originally Posted by pelathais
I don't think that the small group dynamics such as the one to which I referred can be compared to large scale enterprises like the Crusades, etc. This is more man-on-man; up close and in your face type of abuse. No doubt that the Crusades involved a lot of personal encounters and crimes - to say "the Crusades" or some of the other large scale dramas is not analogous.
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Okay, point taken. Perhaps the crusade analogy isn't the best but the one you used seemed quite extreme and very graphic to me and one that I can't identify with and really don't want to have to even think about it in order to try and identify with the comparison you're making.
Anyhow ....
Sometimes we have to be abased. It's part of the human experience. Certainly Jesus was and certainly Paul was and he testified to it too.
We survive these things and come out better for it if we're committed to keeping our heart and spirit right.