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Old 08-27-2007, 10:27 PM
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I don't think that the small group dynamics such as the one to which I referred can be compared to large scale enterprises like the Crusades, etc. This is more man-on-man; up close and in your face type of abuse. No doubt that the Crusades involved a lot of personal encounters and crimes - to say "the Crusades" or some of the other large scale dramas is not analogous.
Okay, point taken. Perhaps the crusade analogy isn't the best but the one you used seemed quite extreme and very graphic to me and one that I can't identify with and really don't want to have to even think about it in order to try and identify with the comparison you're making.

Anyhow ....

Sometimes we have to be abased. It's part of the human experience. Certainly Jesus was and certainly Paul was and he testified to it too.

We survive these things and come out better for it if we're committed to keeping our heart and spirit right.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:29 PM
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Okay, point taken. Perhaps the crusade analogy isn't the best but the one you used seemed quite extreme and very graphic to me and one that I can't identify with and really don't want to have to even think about it in order to try and identify with the comparison you're making.

Anyhow ....

Sometimes we have to be abased. It's part of the human experience. Certainly Jesus was and certainly Paul was and he testified to it too.

We survive these things and come out better for it if we're committed to keeping our heart and spirit right.

The voice of common sense at last.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:01 AM
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The voice of common sense at last.
"At last...?" I think you've just fallen into this thread. (Or been enmired, ensnared?)

Felicity has been here with her wisdom and Christian witness throughout. I feel like I'm a better person just listening to her.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:30 PM
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...We survive these things and come out better for it if we're committed to keeping our heart and spirit right.
And if not we become obsessed. We become accusers. We become motivated by wounds and hurts - something very different from love.

Eventually, we ourselves end up as the spear throwers.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:30 PM
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And if not we become obsessed. We become accusers. We become motivated by wounds and hurts - something very different from love.

Eventually, we ourselves end up as the spear throwers.
Very true! And woah! This made me sit straight up in my seat!

I had a dream Sunday afternoon that woke me up with a start! I was dreaming that one of the posters here had just written a post where he said ..... "As for me, I could never live in isolation!"

I answered him (in my dream) writing ..... "David had to live in a cave for a while to hide from a spear thrower!"

Amazing!
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