Are The 70.Wks Of Daniel Fulfilled ?

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Yes sir...

Jesus, speaking to those standing in front of him, said "When YOU see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet"

Jesus set within them an expectation that they, themselves, would see this thing.

If you don't mine I would like to go back to the statement you made above. Jesus said "When YOU see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION....."

When did this take place and who seen this take place?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Believer

If you don't mine I would like to go back to the statement you made above. Jesus said "When YOU see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION....."

When did this take place and who seen this take place?

I agree with the proponent of this thought. My take is that Jerusalem was the holy place, and the Roman armies with their idolatrous standards abominated the place. But then the temple was also ravaged and the Romans stood up their standard idols there as well.

It is also recounted in history where the zealots put a man described as a "clown" to be high priest and sleew the actual high priest at the time.

At any rate, history shows that the church recognized Rome's siege of Jerusalem to be the fulfillment of Matt 24 and Luke 21, and fled to Pella! Not one Christian perished.

[ApostolicTexas]

Originally Posted by Believer

If you don't mine I would like to go back to the statement you made above. Jesus said "When YOU see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION....."

When did this take place and who seen this take place?

The 1st century church did...Jesus speaking directly to his disciples telling them what THEY would see and they did

Originally Posted by ApostolicTexas

The 1st century church did...Jesus speaking directly to his disciples telling them what THEY would see and they did

Then we have to assume that all the disciples lived until the year 70 A.D.? That would be the case if they saw the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple as Jesus apparently told them...right?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Believer

Then we have to assume that all the disciples lived until the year 70 A.D.? That would be the case if they saw the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple as Jesus apparently told them...right?

the end of Matt 16 says MANY OF THEM who were there would see his coming. Not all.

Originally Posted by mfblume

the end of Matt 16 says MANY OF THEM who were there would see his coming. Not all.

That does seem plausible. I check all the resources I can get my hands on and they are split about even. Some agree with you, and other don't. I'm not sure, so I concede.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Believer

That does seem plausible. I check all the resources I can get my hands on and they are split about even. Some agree with you, and other don't. I'm not sure, so I concede.

They disagree with what Jesus said?

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

They disagree with what Jesus said?

Thanks for your opinion, I’ll file it away like I do all the others!

[onlygrace]

Originally Posted by mfblume

the end of Matt 16 says MANY OF THEM who were there would see his coming. Not all.

Not to split hairs but it actually says "some" would not taste of death.

Originally Posted by onlygrace

Not to split hairs but it actually says "some" would not taste of death.

Yes, Jesus did state "There be SOME standing here, which shall NOT taste of death..." (Matt. 16:28), however, that was not the FULL extent of His statement concerning this important matter.

He ALSO stated that this exemption from the affects of death would be TEMPORARY in its essence, therefore the inclusion of the word "till" (or until). Simply stated, this "temporary" exemption from the affects of death would be granted to SOME (a limited number), and would remain effective ONLY "until" the coming moment of His appearance in all of the glory and splendor of His eternal kingdom. Seeing that He has NOT returned yet, then it is only reasonable to conclude that not only are those to whom this "temporary" exemption from the affects of death have been granted are yet alive, but that the kingdom of God, in its fullness, is yet futuristic. (Oh! I know that statement will draw the rebuke of preterists; a belief which I once held dear UNTIL God opened my understanding.)

There exists much, much more to this statement of our Lord concerning those to whom God would grant a "temporary" reprieve from the affects of death UNTIL the moment of His second coming to the earth, however, that is a topic for a different thread.