Which one would you rather? - Page 12

Neck · #**111** 08-31-2007, 11:19 PM

I would bring any church new life!

Malvaro · #**112** 08-31-2007, 11:22 PM

if i was a bit tired, i'd go to bed....

The Dean · #**113** 08-31-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Hmmm ... seems we've forgotten the man in the mirror?

This is bordering on ridiculous and needs to stop.

Thank you.

mizpeh · #**114** 08-31-2007, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Malvaro

it would seem he didn't spend enough time with you teaching you basic doctrine....

This is in poor taste and ignorance.

mizpeh · #**115** 08-31-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Always a good point to make, RevDWW. I wonder if the "dead" OP church in our hypothetical example got that way because of all the "biting and devouring?"

Currently we drive my kids across 2 counties to get them to a "happening" church. I felt so bad having them always being the only young people while the rest of us prayed and sought revival only to have revival turned down everytime it showed up.

Just my experience, but I don't think most OP people really want "revival." They just want "control."

So when the new converts show up and are told to park on the side of the church and not out front along the main road... well, there goes revival. When the young people (both of them) are told not to bring their Goth looking friends from school, there goes revival. And finally, there we go as well, to a "happening" church. We were just tired of no revival and nothing for our kids.

Is it a happening Trinitarian church?

SDG · #**116** 08-31-2007, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

This is in poor taste and ignorance.

I agree ... what Mal does not realize is that Dad taught in his later years that baptism was symbolic. He believed it was an outward sign of an inward work.

I was reminded of this recently by my youngest brother, brother in law and sister during my last trip to NC.

Furthermore, he had family that congregated in Pentecostal Trinitarian churches, including his father and mother. He never dared say they weren't saved .... especially because the bore living fruit of the Spirit.

He left the saving to God.

Michael The Disciple · #**117** 08-31-2007, 11:51 PM

Those who are saying the Trinity is a none issue to Trinitarians dont know the ones I have known. Many has been the time when I am teaching Oneness on Paltalk when almost the WHOLE ROOM could be up to 50-60 people are calling me a heretic and saying our doctrine makes us a cult.

Then there are the people I have actually met in person. I work with a Baptist Preacher. One day as we talked he said the thing he is against most is the one might get baptized in Jesus name.

A cousin also Baptist said he was offended if his Church allowed "Jesus Only" doctrine. I have worked with Trins who fought the Oneness doctrine. One of my former Trintarian Pastors told me he could take communion with Catholics because at least they accept the Trinity.

So my experience over many years seems much different than what some are saying.

Having said that for the last 10 years I have not been able to live with either option that the thread is giving. The Oneness groups around here are certainly dead when it comes to true doctrine saving for Oneness and Acts 2:38.

I have visited several Trinity Churches here and found no reason to visit again. If there was one that taught a lot of other truth besides the Trinity maybe I would consider it?

Until then I will continue having Paltalk meetings with whoever shows up or just fellowshipping whoever wants to as long as truth is the goal.

I do NOT consider Trins or Arians "the enemy". I desire to reach them with the full gospel recognizing that some of them may be more spiritual than some Oneness people.

But I do count the doctrine of either of these groups as "an enemy". If one Continues in heresy after various warnings they MAKE THEMSELVES enemies of the truth whether they be Oneness or Trinity because its not all about JUST THESE TWO THINGS.