"stmatthew" I believe you are correct. However, some interpret/preach a total ban. The manual states " all members are Admonished NOT to have TV". (page 158, 5th paragraph).
"Sam", I agree it probably won't happen, but why?
Is it possible that way back when, the writers of this clause, didn't /couldn't see the future of modern media? Maybe it should have been worded different, thats all.
I think there is a complete ban on the membership preachers of the upci with regard to having a television, but not the constituents of the local congregations.... or something like that1..
I think there is a complete ban on the membership preachers of the upci with regard to having a television, but not the constituents of the local congregations.... or something like that1..
The manual does stipulate that NO licensed minister is permitted to have a TV in the home...it also says that it admonishes all memebers to not have one (which is interpreted as "saints" and not just ministers)...
But, since the Articles of Faith say, "We disapprove our members having tvs" and since the affirmation statement says, "the one signing will teach, preach, and practice the holiness standards listed in the A of F"....it would seem that there is an expectation that the saints won't have one or at least the pastor will preach against havingone....
Ok...I'll take the sarcastic hat off for a second and say that the ones who are 'for" tv probably feel the same way, "that there is no sense in the double standard due to the increase of technology in its various forms".
The ones who are "agaist" tv seem to feel that the tv prohibition is a needed rule of distinction and the org cannot afford to give one other inch as far as letting down on identifying standard issues.
It would seem that the conservatives really believe that letting down on tv will open the door for other changes that would ultimately lead the UPC away from all of its traditional holiness standards.
I personally don't believe that alowing tv will do that.
Ok...I'll take the sarcastic hat off for a second and say that the ones who are 'for" tv probably feel the same way, "that there is no sense in the double standard due to the increase of technology in its various forms".
The ones who are "agaist" tv seem to feel that the tv prohibition is a needed rule of distinction and the org cannot afford to give one other inch as far as letting down on identifying standard issues.
It would seem that the conservatives really believe that letting down on tv will open the door for other changes that would ultimately lead the UPC away from all of its traditional holiness standards.
I personally don't believe that alowing tv will do that.
I dare say that there is a double standard due to the increase of technology namely the "internet". As I have posted on another thread - Put the word "television" in place of the "internet/computer" in the UPCI manual and would probably mean about the same.
Unfortunately, there are other "double standards" that no one wants to touch. For instance, "I don't go to the movies, I just wait till it comes out on video". Here's another good one: won't own a television, however, will watch it anywhere else: hotel/motel, cabin, cottage, restaurant, condo, RV, family & friends home - hummmm. Television is not what separates us from the world...If we want true separation, we should take notes from the Amish, they represent true holiness in many ways.
I dare say that there is a double standard due to the increase of technology namely the "internet". As I have posted on another thread - Put the word "television" in place of the "internet/computer" in the UPCI manual and would probably mean about the same.
Unfortunately, there are other "double standards" that no one wants to touch. For instance, "I don't go to the movies, I just wait till it comes out on video". Here's another good one: won't own a television, however, will watch it anywhere else: hotel/motel, cabin, cottage, restaurant, condo, RV, family & friends home - hummmm. Television is not what separates us from the world...If we want true separation, we should take notes from the Amish, they represent true holiness in many ways.
True holiness? Only if your definition of 'true holiness' to be what you are wearing as defined by holiness standards of the UPCI. But the Amish don't really have 'true holiness' as defined by the Bible.
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I'm sorry - I should have never drugged the Amish into this. The point I was making was about the television issues.
I agree with you in "true holiness" - unfortunately, I'm not so sure that others sees it that way.
I like your quote at the end of your post - "If people would just get televisionin their lives they ouldn't be so bored and have to gossip about each other." It reminds me of the time my husband preached one night, a long time ago, that a person gossipping on a colored telephone can be more damaging than a colored television. LOL
I'm sorry - I should have never drugged the Amish into this. The point I was making was about the television issues.
I agree with you in "true holiness" - unfortunately, I'm not so sure that others sees it that way.
I like your quote at the end of your post - "If people would just get televisionin their lives they ouldn't be so bored and have to gossip about each other." It reminds me of the time my husband preached one night, a long time ago, that a person gossipping on a colored telephone can be more damaging than a colored television. LOL
I happen to live in a large Amish community and see them everywhere I go. They have their problems like everyone else, but they don't bring attention to themselves, nor does the media invade their lives, so it seems that they live in peace and harmony when that's far from the truth. I did understand your point all the same...LOL!
I like your husband's quote. You should add that to your sig line!
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