Sorry....another..TV Question

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

I comprehend that you did not follow all of my posts on this thread concerning this matter...

I have a greater level of ability to comprehend than you do obviously....

I also comprehend that your spirituality has to be legislated and that you have no way to control the works of your own flesh or to gird up your own mind or to think on the right things without a total prohibition and abstinence...

You are projecting some things onto me here unmeritoriously. I am convinced that people are going to do what people want to do. I don't support Pentecostal fascism. I believe that if people can find a conjunction of a moment of personal and spiritual clarity, and be presented with the facts and evidence of the agendas behind most television programming, they will decide that it is not only ungodly, but detracts from the bona fide goals of the overcoming Christian.

I comprehend that you cannot afford to watch those commercials because you have no self control....

I stand by my first statement using the word.

I finally comprehend that you started a sentence about my children but failed to finish it...

I realized what a waste of words the whole thing was, and was about to delete it, but at the last second submitted the reply anyhow.

Oh one more thing, I comprehend that you don't know jack squat about my children so I'd suggest you leave them out of this....

Your children, and mine, being less mature and self-aware, are more susceptible to the visual devices employed by marketers. And it isn't just toys they're selling.


I keep saying that the stuff has a lot of innuendo that is bad for man and boy alike, and some of you keep interpreting it to mean that I'm a TV nazi ready to smash sets and take names.

I keep saying that the internet shows you what you ask it to show you, and broadcast television incessantly pumps what they want to show you, and yet this is either ignored or not comprehended as well, evidenced by all the hollering about hypocrisy.


What is the goal of this thread? Are you hoping to persuade, be persuaded, find justification, or just be antagonistic?

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

You are projecting some things onto me here unmeritoriously. I am convinced that people are going to do what people want to do. I don't support Pentecostal fascism. I believe that if people can find a conjunction of a moment of personal and spiritual clarity, and be presented with the facts and evidence of the agendas behind most television programming, they will decide that it is not only ungodly, but detracts from the bona fide goals of the overcoming Christian.

I stand by my first statement using the word.

I realized what a waste of words the whole thing was, and was about to delete it, but at the last second submitted the reply anyhow.



Your children, and mine, being less mature and self-aware, are more susceptible to the visual devices employed by marketers. And it isn't just toys they're selling.


I keep saying that the stuff has a lot of innuendo that is bad for man and boy alike, and some of you keep interpreting it to mean that I'm a TV nazi ready to smash sets and take names.

I keep saying that the internet shows you what you ask it to show you, and broadcast television incessantly pumps what they want to show you, and yet this is either ignored or not comprehended as well, evidenced by all the hollering about hypocrisy.

What is the goal of this thread? Are you hoping to persuade, be persuaded, find justification, or just be antagonistic?

I disagree with this in the confines of I watch what I want to watch and turn off what I want to turn off...I have program guides which give me the ratings of the show and information beforehand concerning content...

When I sign on the internet at my house my home page flashes all kinds of advertisements at me...some with women in skimpy attire, bikinis, and such...advertising vacations spots and such...how am I in total control there? I end up seeing...if even for a brief moment...that which I am not in control of seeing...

This argument doesn't hold water in this regard...plain and simple, both the internet and TV must be controlled in a Christian manner.

I do not know what the goal of this thread is and have no idea why you asked me...I did not author it.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

I disagree with this in the confines of I watch what I want to watch and turn off what I want to turn off...I have program guides which give me the ratings of the show and information beforehand concerning content...

When I sign on the internet at my house my home page flashes all kinds of advertisements at me...some with women in skimpy attire, bikinis, and such...advertising vacations spots and such...how am I in total control there? I end up seeing...if even for a brief moment...that which I am not in control of seeing...

This argument doesn't hold water in this regard...plain and simple, both the internet and TV must be controlled in a Christian manner.

I do not know what the goal of this thread is and have no idea why you asked me...I did not author it.

Especially when it comes to sites that have advertising on it. You have no control over words and pictures that come up.

The good thing about TV is, the commercials are geared to the audience. If cartoons is on, beer commercials aren't.

The internet isn't that specific.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Especially when it comes to sites that have advertising on it. You have no control over words and pictures that come up.

The good thing about TV is, the commercials are geared to the audience. If cartoons is on, beer commercials aren't.

The internet isn't that specific.

Exactly...

This is the deal as well for the "interent is controlable Tv is not" crowd...

How many marriages have been broken up over tv verses the internet?

How many child molesters have arranged meetings with children for sex over a tv verses the internet?

How much free pornography can be accessed by children on the tv verses the internet?

How many children have fallen into trouble in chat rooms on the Tv verses the internet?

How many extremly suggestive pictures have been "posted" on the "myspace" tv as opposed to the internet?

Humm?????

Originally Posted by triumphant1

Exactly...

This is the deal as well for the "interent is controlable Tv is not" crowd...

How many marriages have been broken up over tv verses the internet?

How many child molesters have arranged meetings with children for sex over a tv verses the internet?

How much free pornography can be accessed by children on the tv verses the internet?

How many children have fallen into trouble in chat rooms on the Tv verses the internet?

How many extremly suggestive pictures have been "posted" on the "myspace" tv as opposed to the internet?

Humm?????

Right on!

Our teenagers have been grounded more times over the internet than anything else - and that is with parental controls on!

Seriously folks, the internet and television debate is getting quite old. We need to face the facts that either one can be a detriment to us if we do not use self-control and accountability. On the other hand, both can be used as an asset to our lives. However, with what triumphant 1 has mentioned above - television vs internet - who can honestly argue with that? There is MORE danger with the internet if not used properly - speaking from experience...

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Sissy

Right on!

Our teenagers have been grounded more times over the internet than anything else - and that is with parental controls on!

Seriously folks, the internet and television debate is getting quite old. We need to face the facts that either one can be a detriment to us if we do not use self-control and accountability. On the other hand, both can be used as an asset to our lives. However, with what triumphant 1 has mentioned above - television vs internet - who can honestly argue with that? There is MORE danger with the internet if not used properly - speaking from experience...

The parental controls we use are very good. My oldest daughter has gotten bored with being on the net because she can't get into certain sites she'd like to visit. The program is that strict.