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Old 09-04-2007, 12:26 AM
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Paulicianism was a Gnostic and Manichaean Christian sect that florished between 650 and 872 in Anatolia, outgoing from Armenia and the Eastern Themes of the Byzantine Empire. An ancient Paulician manuscript, The Key of Truth, was discovered in Armenia in 1891. The translator, Fred Conybeare, said "I found nothing that savoured of these ancient heresies... the Manicheans and Mani was anathematized by the Paulician Church." (The Key of Truth, Conybeare, 1898, pg. vi, cxxxi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulicianism

Bob, Please notice on the wiki page to the right where it states "Part of a series on Gnosticism" scroll down until you see "Medieval Gnosticism" there will be a list of Medieval Gnosticism sect list, Paulicianism being one of them.

Medieval Gnosticism
Paulicianism
Tondrakians
Bogomilism
Bosnian Church
Catharism
How in the world can the Paulicians be "Manicheans" if the anathematized Mani and the Manicheans? Your assertion is completely false. The anathematization of Manicheans is proof against your claim (and edited Wiki reference) of them being Manichean. The only think you have to go on now is your claim that they Paulicians were "gnostic". Where is your proof? Can you substantiate it? Again, Conybear translated their teachings "The Key of Truth" in the late 19th century. If there is gnostic teaching them show me!!! Here is the article again from Wiki as it was originally accessed by me:

Paulicianism was a Christian sect that florished between 650 and 872 in Anatolia, outgoing from Armenia and the Eastern Themes of the Byzantine Empire. An ancient Paulician manuscript, The Key of Truth, was discovered in Armenia in 1891. The translator, Fred Conybeare, said "I found nothing that savoured of these ancient heresies... the Manicheans and Mani was anathematized by the Paulician Church." (The Key of Truth, Conybeare, 1898, pg. vi, cxxxi)


The adherents of the sect called themselves Christians.[citation needed] The name Paulicians was given by others, derived from their respect for the apostle Paul,[citation needed] rather than from their third leader, the Armenian Paul, as Photius and Petrus Siculus affirm.[citation needed] They especially honoured the Gospel According to Luke, Saint John, and the Letters of St. Paul. They accepted both the Old and New Testaments. There were many that were adoptionists and there were also many among them that adhered to modalistic Monarchianism which they probably inherited from certain Monanists that joined them. Their denial of the Trinity may have resulted in many of them altering their baptismal rite by immersion in the name of Christ as opposed to baptizing into the Trinity. Some may have combined the two forms. Only adults 30 years of age or over were eligible for baptism since this was the age Christ was baptized. The person that performed the baptism had to be pure of heart in order for the baptism to be considered valid. (The Key of Truth, Conybeare)

Some historians [Who says this?]have stated that incidences of prophetic and ecstatic utterances among the Paulicians was actually glossolalia, which when occurring outside of the Church was considered witchcraft.[citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulicianism
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