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Originally Posted by LadyRev
A pastor still doesn't have the right to take designated funds and do with them as he so pleases! ITS NOT HIS MONEY!
Unless the givers and/or those that worked the fundraisers approve of the change, those designated funds MUST be sent in according to organization guidelines, not according to the whim of some disgruntled pastor!
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BINGO!!!
Not only is it unethical to take designated funds and use them in other ways, but I do believe it's also illegal to do so.
Now, the way they get around this is by taking special offerings for "the youth" or "the ministries the youth support." In such cases, most people give cash and don't put it in an envelope specifying that it's for SFC. I know a couple pastors who's m.o. is to take the non-designated cash offering and use it for whatever. even if it was taken in a special offering. A little slimy and unethical, but that's just them.
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Originally Posted by LadyRev
A pastor also doesn't have the right to strive for his/her own views to the disunity of the body.
How much "unity" will be brought by these actions?
And if perchance a pastor does go to the givers and explains what he would like to do with the funds and requests their approval, how much unity would be brought by a pastor going to his people with his gripes and complaints about the organization, its practices and the brethren within it???
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It's funny, but I bet these Pastors wanting to withhold SFC money are the same one's crying for and demanding unity in the UPC by defeating the tv resolution.
I'm all for the Pastor's being able to protest to their little, hardened hearts content. However, if you want to protest NAYC, do so by not promoting it in '09; or by not sponsoring or allowing the youth to go.
Pastors would condemn saints to hell if they were to withhold tithes and offerings because they didn't agree with the Pastor. But Pastors are above the little people and therefore are able to do whatever they want without questions or consequences.
Also, Pastors would excommunicate a saint for sharing united discontent against the Pastor. Yet, there's been almost nonstop criticism by Pastors against the GYD. Again, refer to the difference between Pastors and little people in the paragraph above.
As for Dora, again, she's a young girl - leave her alone. So she wore a skirt that was right to her knees and the cameraman tried getting a perve pic...that wasn't her fault. Where's the outrage against the cameraman? What was he thinking?!?
And her dress to non-UPC award shows...again, don't blame her. As has been stated, most honorees, presenters, or celebrities have their wardrobe selected for them by designers and their agency.
She didn't do a J-Lo and wear some sheer dress with a v-neck plunging down below her navel . . . and she wasn't exposing more than most there.
Most of this is much ado about nothing. The excuse about taking down the public photo-op pics of her is dumb. AFF wouldn't bear any legal responsibility because the pics were taken and published with permission from her agency, otherwise they wouldn't be on the net in the first place.
That excuse is as incorrect and dumb as BD's statistics on % of SFC offerings.
Unfortunately, because of my work schedule, I won't be able to get back online until either tomorrow or the next day.
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