Pastors move to withhold/lessen SFC offerings in protest of NAYC

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

BINGO!!!

Not only is it unethical to take designated funds and use them in other ways, but I do believe it's also illegal to do so.

Now, the way they get around this is by taking special offerings for "the youth" or "the ministries the youth support." In such cases, most people give cash and don't put it in an envelope specifying that it's for SFC. I know a couple pastors who's m.o. is to take the non-designated cash offering and use it for whatever. even if it was taken in a special offering. A little slimy and unethical, but that's just them.



It's funny, but I bet these Pastors wanting to withhold SFC money are the same one's crying for and demanding unity in the UPC by defeating the tv resolution.


I'm all for the Pastor's being able to protest to their little, hardened hearts content. However, if you want to protest NAYC, do so by not promoting it in '09; or by not sponsoring or allowing the youth to go.


Pastors would condemn saints to hell if they were to withhold tithes and offerings because they didn't agree with the Pastor. But Pastors are above the little people and therefore are able to do whatever they want without questions or consequences.


Also, Pastors would excommunicate a saint for sharing united discontent against the Pastor. Yet, there's been almost nonstop criticism by Pastors against the GYD. Again, refer to the difference between Pastors and little people in the paragraph above.


As for Dora, again, she's a young girl - leave her alone. So she wore a skirt that was right to her knees and the cameraman tried getting a perve pic...that wasn't her fault. Where's the outrage against the cameraman? What was he thinking?!?

And her dress to non-UPC award shows...again, don't blame her. As has been stated, most honorees, presenters, or celebrities have their wardrobe selected for them by designers and their agency.

She didn't do a J-Lo and wear some sheer dress with a v-neck plunging down below her navel . . . and she wasn't exposing more than most there.

Most of this is much ado about nothing. The excuse about taking down the public photo-op pics of her is dumb. AFF wouldn't bear any legal responsibility because the pics were taken and published with permission from her agency, otherwise they wouldn't be on the net in the first place.

That excuse is as incorrect and dumb as BD's statistics on % of SFC offerings.


Unfortunately, because of my work schedule, I won't be able to get back online until either tomorrow or the next day.

You are correct. It seems that this place is becoming more and more censored. I've been watching it happen and it's only getting worse.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

You are correct. It seems that this place is becoming more and more censored. I've been watching it happen and it's only getting worse.

Like I said...............and getting an infraction for saying so proves it.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

You are correct. It seems that this place is becoming more and more censored. I've been watching it happen and it's only getting worse.

Guys as an admin I had no issue with it NOR did I have a problem with the YC doing anything. To make this about what the Admins here do is getting a little too much.

For me, the only issue was that people were commenting on this girl here about how she was dressed and even making comments about her personally, then there were others that were complaining about how would they feel if someone was saying all this stuff about their daughters. Those people were offended too.

It seemed like everyone had an issue with the pictures being posted and this kid being discussed as it was here on this public forum. For that reason only I support having the picture of her at the MTV music award removed. I have no problem with anything else in that thread.

We have ALWAYS ALWAYS done things like that even at NFCF with pictures people post. This forum is NOT getting MORE into censureship.

Now, please, if you have an issue with what the Admin does, take it to PM and discuss it there. Let us Admin this board as best we can. It's not easy but it certainly is a lot less easy with people constantly second guessing and complaining.