Baptism for salvation questions

[SDG]

Circumcision in the OT never took away sins .... clearly Paul's parallel with it has more in significance than what you have stated in your exegesis, Beard.... nor did it save anyone. Abraham was circumcised 12 years after he entered in a covenant w/ God ... are you suggesting he was unsaved during this interim?

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Circumcision in the OT never took away sins .... clearly Paul's parallel with it has more in significance than what you have stated in your exegesis, Beard.... nor did it save anyone. Abraham was circumcised 12 years after he entered in a covenant w/ God ... are you suggesting he was unsaved during this interim?

Way to go Dan, the truth hurts. The natural instinct is to participate in our own salvation. Who can even conceptualize a free salvation? If baptism alone saved you, we could baptize at wal-mart next to the chip & dip. Buy three packs of Doritos and get baptized for free...if it's not a work of faith, it means nothing.
Salvation is a free work of Grace and everybody knows it, but doesn't want to admit it. Should we be baptized? Of course, but salvation alone belongs to God and we are commanded to judge nothing before its time. If baptism is rejected, then thats between the new believer and God. Our responsibility is to love them.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Circumcision in the OT never took away sins .... clearly Paul's parallel with it has more in significance than what you have stated in your exegesis, Beard.... nor did it save anyone. Abraham was circumcised 12 years after he entered in a covenant w/ God ... are you suggesting he was unsaved during this interim?

If someone was not circumcised though they were cut off from Israel...does this mean then that if someone is not baptized they will be cut off from the church?