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Old 09-13-2007, 11:06 AM
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Mfblume,

Oh well, it was good while it lasted...

...but I thought the subject was attaining a final level of spiritual maturity...I understand maturing in the Lord...that process should take place every day, but to attain the maturity of perfection, a final place of maturity here, I just don't think so...
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:07 AM
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Mfblume,

Oh well, it was good while it lasted...

...but I thought the subject was attaining a final level of spiritual maturity...I understand maturing in the Lord...that process should take place every day, but to attain the maturity of perfection, a final place of maturity here, I just don't think so...
I think we are all saying the same thing... just in different ways...
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:09 AM
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Mfblume,

Oh well, it was good while it lasted...

...but I thought the subject was attaining a final level of spiritual maturity...I understand maturing in the Lord...that process should take place every day, but to attain the maturity of perfection, a final place of maturity here, I just don't think so...
This is indeed a whole issue in itself. But walking after the Spirit is spiritual maturity, and when we do so, we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. I do not think the bible dnagles carrots on sticks in front of us, that we can never attain.

Bro., we're dead to sin. If we knew Romans 6 through 8's message, and how that means we should not live any longer to the lusts of the flesh, we would have total victory.

I think the variation on beliefs in this issue circle around whether or not one believes Paul merely spoke of his past in Romans 7 or his then-present condition. Since Romans 7:24-25 shows the remedy to the dillemma of inability to do what one would, it is speaking solely of his past. Paul got over the dillemma of not doing what he would. This point is where many simply disagree.
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