Communism vs Christianity

[Sister Alvear]

redeemedcynic84 has some real problems that need to be dealt with...
Anyone that has half a brain and any knowledge at all of communism KNOWS it is one of the world´s most cruel systems.
I Personally have listened to hours personal testimonies of people that were years in communist prisions and their only crime was being a christian.

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

redeemedcynic84 has some real problems that need to be dealt with...
Anyone that has half a brain and any knowledge at all of communism KNOWS it is one of the world´s most cruel systems.
I Personally have listened to hours personal testimonies of people that were years in communist prisions and their only crime was being a christian.

you are, again, mixing up the way it happened with the idea behind it...

Jesus was a communist, but if he were to enact communism, he wouldn't do it the way Russia or others did it....

You are taking out the execution on the ideal rather than the ones who executed it badly...

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

you are, again, mixing up the way it happened with the idea behind it...

Jesus was a communist, but if he were to enact communism, he wouldn't do it the way Russia or others did it....

You are taking out the execution on the ideal rather than the ones who executed it badly...

I already dealt with this but Jesus was most certainly NOT a communist! of any kind. how obsurd.

Taking care of sick people is not a communist ideal. It is a christian ideal. feeding the poor isnt a communist ideal it is a christian one.

AND the Jerusalem church fell into massive poverty one can certainly assume it was because of their practice of holding everything in common.

AND

there is NO EVIDENCE that any other church besides the Jerusalem church practiced communal living.

NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE.

Communism is OF THE DEVIL, at its best it is a counterfit meant to replace faith in God, for faith in a state.

there is NO single thing within the "theory of communism" that has any redeaming value.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I already dealt with this but Jesus was most certainly NOT a communist! of any kind. how obsurd.

Taking care of sick people is not a communist ideal. It is a christian ideal. feeding the poor isnt a communist ideal it is a christian one.

AND the Jerusalem church fell into massive poverty one can certainly assume it was because of their practice of holding everything in common.

AND

there is NO EVIDENCE that any other church besides the Jerusalem church practiced communal living.

NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE.

Communism is OF THE DEVIL, at its best it is a counterfit meant to replace faith in God, for faith in a state.

there is NO single thing within the "theory of communism" that has any redeaming value.

From each according to his ability to each according to his need seems like great wisdom, but who decides what the need is? The one receiving or the one giving?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

From each according to his ability to each according to his need seems like great wisdom, but who decides what the need is? The one receiving or the one giving?

RevDWW you just worry about making certain that your check is made payable to me!!!

I'll worry about the need, thank very much for your kind contributions.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by pelathais

RevDWW you just worry about making certain that your check is made payable to me!!!

I'll worry about the need, thank very much for your kind contributions.

Therein lies the problem with communism.
But if it's redistribution of wealth, lots are for it as long as they are in on the 'distribution' and not part of the 're'........:k illinme

Originally Posted by Ferd

I already dealt with this but Jesus was most certainly NOT a communist! of any kind. how obsurd.

Taking care of sick people is not a communist ideal. It is a christian ideal. feeding the poor isnt a communist ideal it is a christian one.

AND the Jerusalem church fell into massive poverty one can certainly assume it was because of their practice of holding everything in common.

AND

there is NO EVIDENCE that any other church besides the Jerusalem church practiced communal living.

NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE.

Communism is OF THE DEVIL, at its best it is a counterfit meant to replace faith in God, for faith in a state.

there is NO single thing within the "theory of communism" that has any redeaming value.

actually, they're both socialist and Christian ideals...

and communism is not of the devil other than the fact that the governments who have tried to put it in place have been evil and lied to the people telling them they were doing one thing when they didn't really do it at all... Russia was never really communist, they were ALWAYS a dictatorship that pretended to be communist...

which is part of my point... Sis. Alvear's problem is with the specific governemtns, but those governments never truely tried to reach the ideals... Russia expelled Trotsky (I think that was his name) because he wanted to keep trying to become a socialist state, whereas Lenin and Stalin wanted to keep taking everything for themselves... It went from egalitarian to totalitarian the moment that they took power... They lied to the people using socialism so they could take power...