Communism vs Christianity

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

even if the woman didn't commit adultery, she still sinned elsewhere. That is the point. Jesus didn't say "don't commit adultery anymore" he said "go and sin no more", something that no one is capable of doing (except Jesus)...

He was certainly in reference to the sin that she was about to be stoned for. The Bible certainly teaches that we can live a life above sin. If sin was impossible to overcome then wherein would we be held accountable?

Just because we might come short from time to time doesn't mean that it is out of reach or we wouldn't be able to do it at all. We aren't perfect without him, but with him we can defeat sin and rise above toward perfection.

This is largely beside the point, and you still have failed to give any other example of all kinds of things that Jesus taught us being abtainable, yet impossible.

Again, you guys are missing the point, though...

You see and focus on some would be similarities and couple Christ with the likes of Marx who was a historic loser.

Yet you refuse to grasp the many points that contrast the two individuals and various applications of principle, including those that differ greatly, that define and thus seperate the two, and Christ's teachings from any association with sociocommunism at its best.

Jesus said many things that are socialist ideals... giving to the poor, taking care of the poor... taking care of those who can't take care of themselves... All things that are a part of socialism... Jesus was much closer to Marx as far as social action than he was to anyone that lived in his day and age...

These ideals are not socialistic, they are Christian. This wouldn't be the first time someone tried to steal Christian principle, tweak them, and use it for non Christian ends.

You simply have it backwards, Jesus wasn't much closer to Marx, Marx and many tried to steal parts of good concepts for their own evil means.

It's an uneven and unbalanced mistake to compare without the weights of contrast.

Originally Posted by Theophilus

He was certainly in reference to the sin that she was about to be stoned for. The Bible certainly teaches that we can live a life above sin. If sin was impossible to overcome then wherein would we be held accountable?

Just because we might come short from time to time doesn't mean that it is out of reach or we wouldn't be able to do it at all. We aren't perfect without him, but with him we can defeat sin and rise above toward perfection.

This is largely beside the point, and you still have failed to give any other example of all kinds of things that Jesus taught us being abtainable, yet impossible.

"rise above toward perfection"??? It sounds like you know that you can't ever truely attain "From this day forward perfection"... you just aren't willing to admit it... Otherwise why would you say "rise above towards perfection" instead of "attain perfection"???

You see and focus on some would be similarities and couple Christ with the likes of Marx who was a historic loser.

Yet you refuse to grasp the many points that contrast the two individuals and various applications of principle, including those that differ greatly, that define and thus seperate the two, and Christ's teachings from any association with sociocommunism at its best.

But you are associating (and mis-interpreting) Marx's anti-religion statements ("religion is the opium of the masses") and modern Communist (uppercase) stances against religion (See: Russia and China) with socialism and "pure communism" as ideals... and you can't do that...

Russia and China are not communist states, they are Communist states... there is a massive difference between the two... One is moving evercloser to egalitarian "utopia", the other is just another name for a totalitarian dictatorship...

Many of Jesus' thoughts on topics are in line with socialism theory...

These ideals are not socialistic, they are Christian. This wouldn't be the first time someone tried to steal Christian principle, tweak them, and use it for non Christian ends.

You simply have it backwards, Jesus wasn't much closer to Marx, Marx and many tried to steal parts of good concepts for their own evil means.

It's an uneven and unbalanced mistake to compare without the weights of contrast.

Has it ever occured to you that the reason people say that Jesus is a communist is because those ideas are ideals of both Christianity AND socialism????

How is this this hard for you to understand??? Are you that blinded by propoganda?