The Persecution of Women in the Church

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I disagree with your implication that the age of the Bible has anything whatsoever to do with its relevance for us today.

Would you mind answering the question about whether you think the Bible has a "cultural bias"?

You have to be kidding. The bible was written 2K years ago in a different civilization. We cannot even begin to compare our western mentality to the Jewish enviornment of that day. God's word is His word, not ours. Paul clarified this many times when he stated this is from me and not from God. Of course Paul wrote out of his own personal experiences as we all do. The cultural differences of our day are incomprehensible. To think anything else is pure ignorance. Sorry. I belive God's word is true and believe God is infallible, but not man. Everybody but Jesus has problems friend. We are all broken trying to let Jesus pick up the pieces.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

You have to be kidding. The bible was written 2K years ago in a different civilization. We cannot even begin to compare our western mentality to the Jewish enviornment of that day. God's word is His word, not ours. Paul clarified this many times when he stated this is from me and not from God. Of course Paul wrote out of his own personal experiences as we all do. The cultural differences of our day are incomprehensible. To think anything else is pure ignorance. Sorry. I belive God's word is true and believe God is infallible, but not man. Everybody but Jesus has problems friend. We are all broken trying to let Jesus pick up the pieces.

Paul said this once or possibly twice. Not "many times."

If you read less psychobabble and more Bible, you might not make serious blunders like that when discussing Scripture.

As for your other statements concerning the veracity and validity of Paul versus Jesus, are you questioning the infallibility of the Pauline epistles?

I think we are about to smoke out the problem here.

The principles in God's Word are eternal, and applicable to every generation.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Paul said this once or possibly twice. Not "many times."

If you read less psychobabble and more Bible, you might not make serious blunders like that when discussing Scripture.

As for your other statements concerning the veracity and validity of Paul versus Jesus, are you questioning the infallibility of the Pauline epistles?

I think we are about to smoke out the problem here.

The principles in God's Word are eternal, and applicable to every generation.

I've been in ministry 23 years, I know the bible like the back of my hand. Ignorance is not bliss. What you don't know can hurt you. Try doing a scholarly research on the Pauline epistles. There's a lot in the bible that is not God's direct word to us today. The bible is a series, a collection of books spanning many generations. God wrote His word through man. Man is fallible, God isn't. What part of that do you have a problem with? A simple study of the new testament manuscripts reveals error, some dating earlier do not have the same scriptures. Wake up dude, we walk by faith.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

I've been in ministry 23 years, I know the bible like the back of my hand. Ignorance is not bliss. What you don't know can hurt you. Try doing a scholarly research on the Pauline epistles. There's a lot in the bible that is not God's direct word to us today. The bible is a series, a collection of books spanning many generations. God wrote His word through man. Man is fallible, God isn't. What part of that do you have a problem with? A simple study of the new testament manuscripts reveals error, some dating earlier do not have the same scriptures. Wake up dude, we walk by faith.

2 Timothy 3:16-17
(16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable

You're not reading his posts or maybe just not thinking about what he is saying.

2Tim3:16 is this verse true or false?

When Jesus said He was the way the truth and the life....was he lying?

According to what you are preaching we can't trust anything we read in the Bible as being the truth.

[The Mrs]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

You're not reading his posts or maybe just not thinking about what he is saying.

2Tim3:16 is this verse true or false?

When Jesus said He was the way the truth and the life....was he lying?

According to what you are preaching we can't trust anything we read in the Bible as being the truth.

Is polygamy truth? Should we practice this because our forefathers did?

I believe that's what CH is speaking of when he speaks of cultural differences.

Originally Posted by The Mrs

Is polygamy truth? Should we practice this because our forefathers did?

I believe that's what CH is speaking of when he speaks of cultural differences.

Thank you. Somebody gets it.

[The Mrs]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

Thank you. Somebody gets it.

Well...that's kinda what I thought when you brought up this topic.

There are many cultures around the world affected by degradation of women. Societies change, as ours has.

This has been interesting.

Gotta head out now...stay cool, keep your heads, and live peaceably with all men!

Originally Posted by mizpeh

You're not reading his posts or maybe just not thinking about what he is saying.

2Tim3:16 is this verse true or false?

When Jesus said He was the way the truth and the life....was he lying?

According to what you are preaching we can't trust anything we read in the Bible as being the truth.

When Paul wrote this to Timothy, he didn't conside what he was writing to be scripture. It was a personal letter. The only reason it's scripture today is because the early church fathers wanted to include it in the package of texts relevant to Christianity. Paul was referring to the sciptures of the Old testament, like the Psalms, Ezekiel, the prophet Moses' writings, etc.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

When Paul wrote this to Timothy, he didn't conside what he was writing to be scripture. It was a personal letter. The only reason it's scripture today is because the early church fathers wanted to include it in the package of texts relevant to Christianity. Paul was referring to the sciptures of the Old testament, like the Psalms, Ezekiel, the prophet Moses' writings, etc.

You're digging the hole deeper.

I think we have a rule someplace about not attempting to promote false doctrine, and you are.

I am saddened.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

When Paul wrote this to Timothy, he didn't conside what he was writing to be scripture. It was a personal letter. The only reason it's scripture today is because the early church fathers wanted to include it in the package of texts relevant to Christianity. Paul was referring to the sciptures of the Old testament, like the Psalms, Ezekiel, the prophet Moses' writings, etc.

crazyhomie- See 2 Peter 3:15-16 and Ephesians 2:20.

I understood the original post to be about man's response and incomplete understanding of what Scripture meant; not that it wasn't Scripture to start with.