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Old 09-15-2007, 09:10 PM
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fair enough, I was asked to respond. The bigger picture is about the abuse of women and what can the church do to help those women.
Really? Because your first post really seemed to be more about what the church has done and is still doing to ABUSE women.

In fact, there isn't any reference at all in your post to the church "helping" abused women. Its all about women being persecuted by the church.
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:13 PM
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Really? Because your first post really seemed to be more about what the church has done and is still doing to ABUSE women.

In fact, there isn't any reference at all in your post to the church "helping" abused women. Its all about women being persecuted by the church.
Again Miss. Why are you so defensive. The purpose of this whole forum should be to help. Spiritually speaking if we have the H.G. and there is a Satanic attack against women, don't you think we should help> Please.
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:14 PM
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Again Miss. Why are you so defensive. The purpose of this whole forum should be to help. Spiritually speaking if we have the H.G. and there is a Satanic attack against women, don't you think we should help> Please.
Perhaps because this isn't the first time this conversation has come up, and from some posters, its the same ol' same ol'. Blech.

It is in Satan's best interest to attack ALL Christians, not just women. Do you really believe that Satan is only attacking women? In our church right now we have two men fighting cancer, several working multiple jobs to support their families, men who have lost children...men who struggle with all kinds of things in their lives.

How arrogant would I have to be, as a woman, to say that they are not engaged in spiritual warfare on a daily basis?

I just don't like this thread. *Note The Big Scowl On My Face*
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:16 PM
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Perhaps because this isn't the first time this conversation has come up, and from some posters, its the same ol' same ol'. Blech.
I don't think we've approached it from a macro historical view as proposed by CH ... beginning w/ the Church fathers ....

Again the thread took a turn when the patrolmen "smelled a rat" in their opinions
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:20 PM
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I don't think we've approached it from a macro historical view as proposed by CH ... beginning w/ the Church fathers ....

Again the thread took a turn when the patrolmen "smelled a rat" in their opinions
I missed the "smell a rat." I read the first post, and skimmed a few other...interesting...ones. (to be polite)

I am all for discussing the plight of women from a Christian perspective. Until the male-bashers arrive. I have a husband and son. I love them too much to allow such nonsense to stand as if it has substance.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:55 PM
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I don't think we've approached it from a macro historical view as proposed by CH ... beginning w/ the Church fathers ....

Again the thread took a turn when the patrolmen "smelled a rat" in their opinions

When you've got a guy posting tripe on an Apostolic forum, and pushing the idea that the Bible is not the infallible Word of God in its entirety...

Claiming to know the Bible like "the back of [his] hand," and yet making outrageous and false statements about how paul spoke so many times just from his own opinion, questioning the book of Timothy even being in the canon...

Then yes, there is a rat that is reeking pretty bad.
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When you've got a guy posting tripe on an Apostolic forum, and pushing the idea that the Bible is not the infallible Word of God in its entirety...

Claiming to know the Bible like "the back of [his] hand," and yet making outrageous and false statements about how paul spoke so many times just from his own opinion, questioning the book of Timothy even being in the canon...

Then yes, there is a rat that is reeking pretty bad.
Please do not think your opinions are canon.
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When you've got a guy posting tripe on an Apostolic forum, and pushing the idea that the Bible is not the infallible Word of God in its entirety...

Claiming to know the Bible like "the back of [his] hand," and yet making outrageous and false statements about how paul spoke so many times just from his own opinion, questioning the book of Timothy even being in the canon...

Then yes, there is a rat that is reeking pretty bad.
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Please do not think your opinions are canon.
Knowing CS, I doubt he thinks that Daniel, but the fact is I picked up on what he did even before it was mentioned.
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Please do not think your opinions are canon.

Another meaningless comment.

Daniel, you would defend the devil himself if he registered here and attacked Apostolic doctrine and ministry.
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:24 PM
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Perhaps because this isn't the first time this conversation has come up, and from some posters, its the same ol' same ol'. Blech.

It is in Satan's best interest to attack ALL Christians, not just women. Do you really believe that Satan is only attacking women? In our church right now we have two men fighting cancer, several working multiple jobs to support their families, men who have lost children...men who struggle with all kinds of things in their lives.

How arrogant would I have to be, as a woman, to say that they are not engaged in spiritual warfare on a daily basis?

I just don't like this thread. *Note The Big Scowl On My Face*
I can feel your disdain across the wireless internet, but the issue isn't against our local arena, I was trying to discuss a much broader picture, women in general are still being abused and persecuted across the world today. Just turn on the news. Sorry, you didn't like it. Didn't mean to offend you.
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