The Persecution of Women in the Church

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Whether you like it or not, there are some do's and don'ts.

We are commanded to love one another for a starter. If you hate your brethren you are not of God.

Without holiness no man shall see the Lord. We must be holy.

We must be born again. Water and Spirit.

Unless you believe once you are saved you are always saved?

What happened to the thief on the cross?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

What happened to the thief on the cross?

Oh please...the kids in my youth class can answer that.

he was before the death, burial, resurrection, and Pentecost.

Once again, your Bible knowledge is showing up real thin.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Oh please...the kids in my youth class can answer that.

he was before the death, burial, resurrection, and Pentecost.

Once again, your Bible knowledge is showing up real thin.

so what you are saying is that Jesus saves people however he chooses?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

so what you are saying is that Jesus saves people however he chooses?

Do you really need me to go through the theology explaining the thief on the cross?

I can.

But I think you are being disingenuous. If you have any Apostolic background at all, you surely are aware of the fact that the earthly ministry of Christ was something of a transitional time between the law and grace.

Jesus was the Lawgiver--the Lamb--the Altar--the High Priest.

The holy Ghost was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified. Pentecost had yet to come. The keys had yet to be preached by Peter.

That is all basic stuff that our new converts learn quickly.

But I suspect you know that.

Question again--you have read Schopenhauer's "the Art of Controversy," haven't you?

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Do you really need me to go through the theology explaining the thief on the cross?

I can.

But I think you are being disingenuous. If you have any Apostolic background at all, you surely are aware of the fact that the earthly ministry of Christ was something of a transitional time between the law and grace.

Jesus was the Lawgiver--the Lamb--the Altar--the High Priest.

The holy Ghost was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified. Pentecost had yet to come. The keys had yet to be preached by Peter.

That is all basic stuff that our new converts learn quickly.

But I suspect you know that.

Question again--you have read Schopenhauer's "the Art of Controversy," haven't you?

yes

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

yes

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I can tell.

[MissBrattified]

I always find it odd that those screaming for tolerance are the least tolerant of views different from theirs, and use dramatic terms like "abuse", "oppression", "persecution", and whatnot for any type of departure from their own ideals.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Do you really need me to go through the theology explaining the thief on the cross?

I can.

But I think you are being disingenuous. If you have any Apostolic background at all, you surely are aware of the fact that the earthly ministry of Christ was something of a transitional time between the law and grace.

Jesus was the Lawgiver--the Lamb--the Altar--the High Priest.

The holy Ghost was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified. Pentecost had yet to come. The keys had yet to be preached by Peter.

That is all basic stuff that our new converts learn quickly.

But I suspect you know that.

Question again--you have read Schopenhauer's "the Art of Controversy," haven't you?

Wow ... the Holy Ghost not yet given.... mmm ..... please elaborate on what you mean .... as it relates to this scripture in John ....

If it had not been "given" why would John, Mary, and Zacarias be filled w/ the Holy Ghost ... and why would Jesus tell his disciples to receive the Holy Ghost all prior to Pentecost?

Maybe in a new thread ... and in relation to the thief.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Wow ... the Holy Ghost not yet given.... mmm ..... please elaborate on what you mean .... as it relates to this scripture in John ....

If it had not been "given" why would John, Mary, and Zacarias be filled w/ the Holy Ghost ... and why would Jesus tell his disciples to receive the Holy Ghost all prior to Pentecost?

Maybe in a new thread ... and in relation to the thief.

Daniel, please reconcile the following scriptures for me:

Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

Joh 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

[SDG]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Daniel, please reconcile the following scriptures for me:

Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

Joh 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

That's pretty easy ... just have CS start the thread ... and after my baseball game tonight .... I'll take a looksie.