The Persecution of Women in the Church

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

so what you are saying is that Jesus saves people however he chooses?

Do you really need me to go through the theology explaining the thief on the cross?

I can.

But I think you are being disingenuous. If you have any Apostolic background at all, you surely are aware of the fact that the earthly ministry of Christ was something of a transitional time between the law and grace.

Jesus was the Lawgiver--the Lamb--the Altar--the High Priest.

The holy Ghost was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified. Pentecost had yet to come. The keys had yet to be preached by Peter.

That is all basic stuff that our new converts learn quickly.

But I suspect you know that.

Question again--you have read Schopenhauer's "the Art of Controversy," haven't you?

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Do you really need me to go through the theology explaining the thief on the cross?

I can.

But I think you are being disingenuous. If you have any Apostolic background at all, you surely are aware of the fact that the earthly ministry of Christ was something of a transitional time between the law and grace.

Jesus was the Lawgiver--the Lamb--the Altar--the High Priest.

The holy Ghost was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified. Pentecost had yet to come. The keys had yet to be preached by Peter.

That is all basic stuff that our new converts learn quickly.

But I suspect you know that.

Question again--you have read Schopenhauer's "the Art of Controversy," haven't you?

yes

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

yes

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I can tell.

[MissBrattified]

I always find it odd that those screaming for tolerance are the least tolerant of views different from theirs, and use dramatic terms like "abuse", "oppression", "persecution", and whatnot for any type of departure from their own ideals.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I always find it odd that those screaming for tolerance are the least tolerant of views different from theirs, and use dramatic terms like "abuse", "oppression", "persecution", and whatnot for any type of departure from their own ideals.

Me too.

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I always find it odd that those screaming for tolerance are the least tolerant of views different from theirs, and use dramatic terms like "abuse", "oppression", "persecution", and whatnot for any type of departure from their own ideals.

No, what's really amazing is how we usually expose who we are by how we communicate. The tone of your writing leads me to believe you are a victim of your own words.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

No, what's really amazing is how we usually expose who we are by how we communicate. The tone of your writing leads me to believe you are a victim of your own words.

Which words? What am I a victim of? Be more specific...so I can tell you whether you are correct or not.

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Which words? What am I a victim of? Be more specific...so I can tell you whether you are correct or not.

For my perishoners its free, but for you $150.00 deposited into my paypal account will get the clock ticking.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Which words? What am I a victim of? Be more specific...so I can tell you whether you are correct or not.

Miss B knows this, but for you spectators, this is how it works:

This was a subtle attempt to shift the focus of the discussion off the issue to the person.

It also is a subtle ploy to establish the writer as a person of authority.

Debaters do this when they are on the ropes.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Do you really need me to go through the theology explaining the thief on the cross?

I can.

But I think you are being disingenuous. If you have any Apostolic background at all, you surely are aware of the fact that the earthly ministry of Christ was something of a transitional time between the law and grace.

Jesus was the Lawgiver--the Lamb--the Altar--the High Priest.

The holy Ghost was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified. Pentecost had yet to come. The keys had yet to be preached by Peter.

That is all basic stuff that our new converts learn quickly.

But I suspect you know that.

Question again--you have read Schopenhauer's "the Art of Controversy," haven't you?

Wow ... the Holy Ghost not yet given.... mmm ..... please elaborate on what you mean .... as it relates to this scripture in John ....

If it had not been "given" why would John, Mary, and Zacarias be filled w/ the Holy Ghost ... and why would Jesus tell his disciples to receive the Holy Ghost all prior to Pentecost?

Maybe in a new thread ... and in relation to the thief.