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Old 09-20-2007, 11:15 AM
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I think that there many who would like to change their spouses...I've known some lazy wives for that matter...and here is the solution to both issues...

WE NEED MENTORS>>> Elders (Men & Women) who take the young under them and give advice and lead them...
That's why God invented wife/swap on ABC monday nights!
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:03 PM
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It's interesting this topic has came up. . .we were just talking on this very thing in our young peoples class this past Sunday. Our youth pastor, who also teaches the class, really hit hard on the 18-22/23 year old guys in the class about being responsible, mentoring and being an example to the 12/13 year old guys that are up and coming in the youth group. How giving your word is a committment and when given, should be kept, especially when given to the works of God and the ministry. Lack of responsibility in the little things will often bleed over into lack of responsibility in the bigger things. I think it's important not only for young guys but girls as well that responsibility, accountability, integrity, etc is taught. I agree that today's young generation have no accountability and expect everything handed to them.
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:18 AM
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I think that there many who would like to change their spouses...I've known some lazy wives for that matter...and here is the solution to both issues...

WE NEED MENTORS>>> Elders (Men & Women) who take the young under them and give advice and lead them...
but IMO, the man plays a critical role as the HEAD of the family....

if he's not leading, it doesnt matter what the wife does.

If he leads, it'll fix things -if it doesnt - something is off in his leadership IMO
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:21 AM
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but IMO, the man plays a critical role as the HEAD of the family....

if he's not leading, it doesnt matter what the wife does.

If he leads, it'll fix things -if it doesnt - something is off in his leadership IMO
There are soooo many varibles to this it's hard to nail it down without knowing the particulars...

What if his wife is just preachy and bossy?

What if she constantly compares him to others??

What if she won't let up and give the man a breaK??

Is he genuinly lazy or is a escape from the reality of his marriage??

So many things add into this.. personally I would have to see both sides
before making a judgement against him or her whatever the case may be...
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:13 PM
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There are soooo many varibles to this it's hard to nail it down without knowing the particulars...

What if his wife is just preachy and bossy?

What if she constantly compares him to others??

What if she won't let up and give the man a breaK??

Is he genuinly lazy or is a escape from the reality of his marriage??

So many things add into this.. personally I would have to see both sides
before making a judgement against him or her whatever the case may be...
It is God's intended role for the man to be the head of the family. If the wife is 'wearing the pants' in the relationship then she is usurping the authority Gond intended man to have. . .and she's wrong. This is at times hard for me because I am very opinionated and when I have to submit to my husband's authority and decisions on certain things. . .well let's just say it's hard But I'm getting better at it.
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:26 AM
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One point..

Laziness is often a Perception too...
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:40 AM
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Concerning wife abusers, should there be a prayer meet'n with the offender and perhaps some laying on of hands by the brethern is such a way as to adjust the wrong attitude?
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Concerning wife abusers, should there be a prayer meet'n with the offender and perhaps some laying on of hands by the brethern is such a way as to adjust the wrong attitude?
Good plan.
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:48 AM
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Good plan.
What pray through? That plan doesn't work. Let's just ignore it, hide it under the rug so it'll go away...God helps those who help themselves. Prayer is good, but trust, communication, unconditional love and surrender are as much a part of the componenent as a S.N. prayer meeting and everybody laying hands on one another.
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:49 AM
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What pray through? That plan doesn't work. Let's just ignore it, hide it under the rug so it'll go away...God helps those who help themselves. Prayer is good, but trust, communication, unconditional love and surrender are as much a part of the componenent as a S.N. prayer meeting and everybody laying hands on one another.
I don't think Rev meant "laying on hands" in the traditional sense....
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