Do you hafta go through the pastor?

[Ferd]

Rico, you can do what you want. There isn’t anyone out there to stop you.

Doing what you want however makes you one man alone doing what you think you should and there is danger in that.

The reason why pastors look for men who are willing to submit to some kind of leadership, is they know the danger that comes with being a maverick.
Men who are approved by the brethren, tend to be more clear on doctrine, more steady in their personal lives, more likely to minister without causing damage.
Pastors are jealous about what their people hear because pastors have to deal with the fall out when some other messenger comes to tell their flock.

With no one to vouch for you, a pastor isn’t going to risk letting you near his people.

The word you hear is “cover” a man who has mentors and friends in the ministry has “cover”. That cover is there it protect him from himself in most instances. It isn’t about some preacher getting to tell others what to do, it is about some preacher protecting himself from going off the deep end.

If you were to poll, 500 pastors regardless of denomination, I would guarantee, that 90% would tell you they have known at least 1 maverick preacher, and that guy went over the edge and is no longer serving God, or worse, has taken some group into apostasy.

Rico, like I said, you can do what you want. There isn’t anyone that can stop you from starting a prison ministry or even your own church if you like. The danger is, there isn’t anyone to stop you when you go off course. EVERYONE runs the risk of running off course at some point in their ministry….EVERYONE. All the good ones know this, and work to prevent it before it happens. (Cover)

The great “tell” of a preacher in my mind, is how teachable is he?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Rico, you can do what you want. There isn’t anyone out there to stop you.

Doing what you want however makes you one man alone doing what you think you should and there is danger in that.

The reason why pastors look for men who are willing to submit to some kind of leadership, is they know the danger that comes with being a maverick.
Men who are approved by the brethren, tend to be more clear on doctrine, more steady in their personal lives, more likely to minister without causing damage.
Pastors are jealous about what their people hear because pastors have to deal with the fall out when some other messenger comes to tell their flock.

With no one to vouch for you, a pastor isn’t going to risk letting you near his people.

The word you hear is “cover” a man who has mentors and friends in the ministry has “cover”. That cover is there it protect him from himself in most instances. It isn’t about some preacher getting to tell others what to do, it is about some preacher protecting himself from going off the deep end.

If you were to poll, 500 pastors regardless of denomination, I would guarantee, that 90% would tell you they have known at least 1 maverick preacher, and that guy went over the edge and is no longer serving God, or worse, has taken some group into apostasy.

Rico, like I said, you can do what you want. There isn’t anyone that can stop you from starting a prison ministry or even your own church if you like. The danger is, there isn’t anyone to stop you when you go off course. EVERYONE runs the risk of running off course at some point in their ministry….EVERYONE. All the good ones know this, and work to prevent it before it happens. (Cover)

The great “tell” of a preacher in my mind, is how teachable is he?

Brother, I am not called to preach to the Church, so getting approval from a pastor for me to preach to his flock isn't going to be an issue.

Also, this isn't about doing what I want. If I had my way someone else would be going through this.

Lastly, what makes you think I won't have someone I can call on for advice? Why do you think that because I am not interested in becoming a member of a church that that makes me a maverick, bound to fail? Your thinking has become institutionalized.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, I am not called to preach to the Church, so getting approval from a pastor for me to preach to his flock isn't going to be an issue.

Also, this isn't about doing what I want. If I had my way someone else would be going through this.

Lastly, what makes you think I won't have someone I can call on for advice? Why do you think that because I am not interested in becoming a member of a church that that makes me a maverick, bound to fail? Your thinking has become institutionalized.

Rico, I was attempting to provide you insite on the way men think. what ever applies to your situation, you feel free to take to heart. just ignor the rest. while it applies in general across the board, i do know have any knowelge that I can say applies to your situation.

All i have to go on is the very first post in this thread. and thus i gave what the preception could be. Like I said, there is nothing to stop you. If you have cover, then that is wonderful.

I will say that when a guy says they dont want to be part of a church, many will assume that the fellow is not teachable. I dont know nothing about you. I dont know if that applies or not. So I pray that you walk the path that God has for you and find what you are looking for and what God intends bro.