NEWS FLASH! The Cons getting cold Feet?????????????

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

It's because we have preached against television and what's on it.
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We used to preach against radio and what was on it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sam

We used to preach against radio and what was on it.

Sam did you take a good look at the rest of what I said after I made the statement you chose to quote? Nothing like ignoring the bigger picture?
Television is not the goose that lays the golden eggs, and if we believe that it is we would be foolish. Those who are successful in advertising their churches are spending a lot of money. Again I will say that this vote is not for the little church but is more for those who are already large and have hopes to become larger. I have no problem with a Church wanting to become huge, but not at the expense of the rest of the movement who will never benefit from the decision that the voting will make. So Brother Ellis, it is more than just preaching against something, but has more to do with keeping the unity of the Brothers in the fellowship.


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Those who are successful in advertising their churches are spending a lot of money.

What about Pastor Posters post about $5.00 per spot? That's not a lot of money. Why do you guys never address the affordability of cable tv advertising? You always talk like folks are trying to get Super Bowl ad time! Yes advertising on the networks IS expensive, and a vast majority could not afford it. Besides not many churches would want a national ad campaign. However advertising on local cable is very reasonable. Research it on the net and you will see that this "no one can afford it but the big churches" mantra is just plain nonsensical.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

What about Pastor Posters post about $5.00 per spot? That's not a lot of money.

Is that in Romania?

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Why do you guys never address the affordability of cable tv advertising?

Affordabilty on cable? I don't really know about 5.00 a spot advertising.
Could you explain what a "spot" means? Is it 2 seconds, 2 minutes, 2 hours?
Is it at 3 AM, 6 AM?

Originally Posted by deacon blues

You always talk like folks are trying to get Super Bowl ad time!

Really? So, you decided to offer the Super Bowl advertising time as an example? Hey 5.00 a spot to 5 million, not bad to prove a point.
How about trying at least 1,200 to 1,500, I have been on radio and on three different stations and you make television sound far more affordable than AM.
I would ask you to personally research the cost of television advertising at your own local level. Not by searching the Internet but by calling the television stations. You may just get a better view of the issue.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Yes advertising on the networks IS expensive, and a vast majority could not afford it. Besides not many churches would want a national ad campaign. However advertising on local cable is very reasonable. Research it on the net and you will see that this "no one can afford it but the big churches" mantra is just plain nonsensical.

Brother I truly believe that all this may just backfire and cause way more problems than one would want.


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Kansas Preacher]

Originally Posted by Sam

We used to preach against radio and what was on it.

Sam,

The fact is, the United Pentecostal Church NEVER took an official stand against radio. I've heard others make this argument, and it is simply not true. There were some individuals who preached against it, but we, as a movement, never felt led of the Holy Ghost to make an official stand. When it came to television, however, an overwhelming majority of men felt prompted by the Spirit to take an official stand against that particular form of media.


Thad,

Here is one UPC preacher who WILL leave if the resolution passes. I don't care if the UPC starts 10 churches in my city. If they adopt the usage of television in any form or fashion, I'm out.

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher

Sam,

The fact is, the United Pentecostal Church NEVER took an official stand against radio. I've heard others make this argument, and it is simply not true. There were some individuals who preached against it, but we, as a movement, never felt led of the Holy Ghost to make an official stand. When it came to television, however, an overwhelming majority of men felt prompted by the Spirit to take an official stand against that particular form of media.


Thad,

Here is one UPC preacher who WILL leave if the resolution passes. I don't care if the UPC starts 10 churches in my city. If they adopt the usage of television in any form or fashion, I'm out.

You need to study the Bible again, bro... Look at what James did when PAul and the Antioch church wanted to preach that the Gentiles did NOT have to follow the law... They agreed to disagree and stayed together... No one is forcing you to advertise on tv and it is sad when somehting that is not being preached by you as necessary for salvation is so much more important to you than something that James (Jesus' brother) preached was necessary for salvation...

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher

Thad,

Here is one UPC preacher who WILL leave if the resolution passes. I don't care if the UPC starts 10 churches in my city. If they adopt the usage of television in any form or fashion, I'm out.

Why Bro G? Why does the passage of this res have to push you out? I don't understand. How does the passage of this res threaten you in any way? If it passes, keep on fellowshipping those you want and shy away form those you wish to keep at a distance. How does the passage of res 4 have to change anything for you. You can keep on living like you're living, preaching like you're preaching, leading like you're leading.

BTW congrats on the AMC invitation. I may just drive up to see you next year.

[ChicagoPastor]

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher

Sam,

The fact is, the United Pentecostal Church NEVER took an official stand against radio. I've heard others make this argument, and it is simply not true. There were some individuals who preached against it, but we, as a movement, never felt led of the Holy Ghost to make an official stand. When it came to television, however, an overwhelming majority of men felt prompted by the Spirit to take an official stand against that particular form of media.


Thad,

Here is one UPC preacher who WILL leave if the resolution passes. I don't care if the UPC starts 10 churches in my city. If they adopt the usage of television in any form or fashion, I'm out.

Last year at GC we were told that the vote was CLOSE in the 50's....it wasn't an overwhelming majority.

[chseeads]

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher

Sam,

The fact is, the United Pentecostal Church NEVER took an official stand against radio. I've heard others make this argument, and it is simply not true. There were some individuals who preached against it, but we, as a movement, never felt led of the Holy Ghost to make an official stand. When it came to television, however, an overwhelming majority of men felt prompted by the Spirit to take an official stand against that particular form of media.

Looks like the Spirit would've taken a stand against the Internet too..... :sshhh

[StillStanding]

I find it absolutely amazing that any pastor would leave an organization which they have loved for many years over allowing TV advertising or a TV program!

Do you understand how rare it is to find pastors that agree with every little conviction that you may have? Yet you will chose even less fellowship?

Why are you sweating over the small stuff? Save your energy for the REAL issues over doctrine!

I know! I know! You don't want to fellowship churches that are less spiritual than yours!