The Hinn

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Dave you keep this pressing up and .... next we will be forced to ask the really tough questions, like if it's God's will for the church of today to mirror the healing ministries of Jesus and the diciples.

If the answer is "Yes" then pretty much all churches today are out of the will of God.

Hmmmmm.....

Let's set Benny aside for a moment.

with attitudes like this, I can see why God is not moving as he is in south America & Africa.

the pride in America and in the church is really at an all time high

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Thad

Let's set Benny aside for a moment.

with attitudes like this, I can see why God is not moving as he is in south America & Africa.

the pride in America and in the church is really at an all time high

If you can't refute it attribute it to pride.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

If you can't refute it attribute it to pride.

Are you asking for proof of miracles in the US?

I have a bit of sceptisim, but not enough to make me want to go join those that don't believe in modern miracles at all. I have seen, personally, a young man with a broken leg, in a cast, walking with crutches, be prayed for at La Youthcamp year before last, and he tell his mom he was healed. And that he wanted to go get an x-ray of his leg. He brought it back the next day. With the doctor's report that there was no longer a fracture. One of many miracles that took place.

Miracles were reported again this year but I was not there to see so I wouldn't be able to verify those.

Wouldn't it be better to have some of the miraculous, even if there might be those that are fakes mixed in? Why throw the baby out with the bath water?

Should we stop asking God to do what can't be done because the devil might make us look bad by pitching in with his own fakery?

The gifts and calling of the Lord are without repentance. Maybe that's why Jesus said to judge folks by the fruit they produce and not by the power or gifts they operate in.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Are you asking for proof of miracles in the US?

I have a bit of sceptisim, but not enough to make me want to go join those that don't believe in modern miracles at all. I have seen, personally, a young man with a broken leg, in a cast, walking with crutches, be prayed for at La Youthcamp year before last, and he tell his mom he was healed. And that he wanted to go get an x-ray of his leg. He brought it back the next day. With the doctor's report that there was no longer a fracture. One of many miracles that took place.

Miracles were reported again this year but I was not there to see so I wouldn't be able to verify those.

Wouldn't it be better to have some of the miraculous, even if there might be those that are fakes mixed in? Why throw the baby out with the bath water?

Should we stop asking God to do what can't be done because the devil might make us look bad by pitching in with his own fakery?

The gifts and calling of the Lord are without repentance. Maybe that's why Jesus said to judge folks by the fruit they produce and not by the power or gifts they operate in.

I've never said that God cannot or does not heal. What I have said is that the BHs of this world are fakes and so are their "miracles"....and that many people are stupid.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

I've never said that God cannot or does not heal. What I have said is that the BHs of this world are fakes and so are their "miracles"....and that many people are stupid.

RD, I think we agree.

I'd call them trees that are all leaves (by the way the power of the tree is in it's leaves) but no good fruit.

Check and see if their lives measure up to the attributes of the fruit of the Spirit and the Love chapter.