I suspect that in certain places like Cali and even Louisiana and a few other places where Apostolics have reached a saturation point, it may be there are simply too many competing for too few resources. unless they are in places like North Dakota where there are very few Pentecostals, it could be very hard to compete.
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I suspect that in certain places like Cali and even Louisiana and a few other places where Apostolics have reached a saturation point, it may be there are simply too many competing for too few resources. unless they are in places like North Dakota where there are very few Pentecostals, it could be very hard to compete.
what do you mean by reaching the saturation point ?
what do you mean by reaching the saturation point ?
competing for few resources ?
in some areas of California and Louisiana, Apostolic churches are very close to each other, and the resources are PEOPLE.
I know in some places, there is no real growth because there are 30 Apostolic churches all trying to win people from a very small pool.
you get rid of 25 of them and the 5 left would all be large dynamic churchs. as it is, you have 30 that cant win enough people to support a pastor hardly.
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in some areas of California and Louisiana, Apostolic churches are very close to each other, and the resources are PEOPLE.
I know in some places, there is no real growth because there are 30 Apostolic churches all trying to win people from a very small pool.
you get rid of 25 of them and the 5 left would all be large dynamic churchs. as it is, you have 30 that cant win enough people to support a pastor hardly.
that might be one aspect of it Ferd but I'm talking about the stress of trying to maintain a ministry outside of problem of church hopping which has always been
that might be one aspect of it Ferd but I'm talking about the stress of trying to maintain a ministry outside of problem of church hopping which has always been
Why are people always to blame Thad??
If there is consistant church hopping the problem isn't always with Sheep??
But I am sure to be called on the carpet for this..I'm sure...
you think people are easy to deal with in our times randy ?
you ought to try pastoring for a while then come back and post about it
I have pastored... and cleaned the bathrooms... People aren't easy to deal that is why change at times is necessary...but do most change? or attempt to?
If there is consistant church hopping the problem isn't always with Sheep??
But I am sure to be called on the carpet for this..I'm sure...
actually, the fact that church-hopping is a possibility is the issue here...
See, when the Apostles set up the church, the Bishop kept the finances of the Church (read: the Body of Christ) in a city, that's it... He made sure that the money got collected to help the poor, etc...
the meetings were held in various houses, you didn't have to go to every meeting, and there was no rule that you had to agree with absolutely everything that everyone else in the city believed in order to be saved...
The issue with being a pastor in the modern church is that there are 100 churches in every city, and that isn't how it is suppose to be... PLUS the simple fact is that a bishop shouldn't need to pastor, too, although the callings can overlap... There is nothing in the Bible that says they have to...
i dont know what the stats are but i can tell you, there have been many people i know that have left the ministry and are working secular now, these are just people i know, i dont know many honest preachers that make any where near the money i make, but i am sure there are some, lol,dt
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