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Old 09-24-2007, 07:46 PM
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Kudos for being consistent .... even if it's consistently WRONG.

My friend, I would be more joyous than you all if I was wrong. I do not believe I am, but it will not hurt my feelings one bit to see everyone that simply "believed in Christ" in heaven.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:58 PM
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My friend, I would be more joyous than you all if I was wrong. I do not believe I am, but it will not hurt my feelings one bit to see everyone that simply "believed in Christ" in heaven.
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:02 PM
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My friend, I would be more joyous than you all if I was wrong. I do not believe I am, but it will not hurt my feelings one bit to see everyone that simply "believed in Christ" in heaven.
Is this something for you like what Felicity described earlier?

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I think that many people, when you get right down to where the rubber meets the road, actually do hold to some form of the light doctrine but they don't realize they do, and they don't really understand what it is that they're unwittingly confessing to believing.

I've been saying for years now that there is a much higher percentage of UPC preachers who say they believe one thing ..... who in reality really don't .... than what most would admit to. ...

It's one thing to say that Acts 2:38 is the only plan of salvation and that's what it takes to be saved, but then start asking the hard questions and you hear a "lighter" view. ...

Every single person since the birth of the church who hasn't spoken in tongues will burn in hell for eternity?
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:14 PM
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Is this something for you like what Felicity described earlier?
No, because while I can wish it were the case, I do not see scripturally where it is. So no, I do not believe anyone will make heaven that has not obeyed Acts 2:38. I see no "lesser light" available to be born again.
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:18 PM
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No, because while I can wish it were the case, I do not see scripturally where it is. So no, I do not believe anyone will make heaven that has not obeyed Acts 2:38. I see no "lesser light" available to be born again.
Good thing you are not the gatekeeper.
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:22 PM
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Good thing you are not the gatekeeper.
No, most of the time I am the door "matt".

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No, most of the time I am the door "matt".

ba-dum ... tssh!!! That was punny.
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