KH believes the Light Doctrine??

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Well, I guess I am in the minority here, as I do not believe that anyone will be saved without having completely obeyed Acts 2:38. I believe that since the day of Pentecost until this thing is totally wrapped up that only those that have been born of Water in Jesus Name, and born of the Spirit will here the words well done. Of course in saying that, I understand that there will be some that have obeyed the book of Acts, and will not hear the words "well done".

I guess I could say that I am even more tight on this than Bro Epley, because he has stated before that after the rapture of the church that scripture does not give us an example of how the blood will be applied, and has suggested that it could be some other way than Acts 2:38. So I guess I am the Ultra Con of this.

So....um.....what you are saying is that there is absolutely no way for anyone to get into heaven with out the "3 skips" and a jump into heaven? Interesting. While I may not agree I commend you for you opinion. That is not an easy opinion to give on this forum. I believe in the light doctrine per se. I believe God judges and I do not and it is His heaven and not mine. So He can allow people that I may not and that is totally fine with me.

Like Jeff Arnold has said, there are people in this movement that would be so upset with God if they get to heaven and there are other demominations there. Like we had some right all by ourselves to be the only ones in heaven. The truth is that we can only go by what we believe we see the Bible says about salvation so we all have our own ideas about it. You may be right St.Matthew, but you may not. I used to feel the way you do, but after further reading and prayer I feel differently. I did not change to compromise, but I changed because what I feel God has told me and showed me.

I have one question for you. If it is that only the ones that have completed all "3 skips" and they are the only ones that will go to heaven then why is heaven so big with so many mansion? That would be like building a 100,000 square foot office space, but only having 2 employees. No sense, but God's ways is above our ways.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

So....um.....what you are saying is that there is absolutely no way for anyone to get into heaven with out the "3 skips" and a jump into heaven? Interesting. While I may not agree I commend you for you opinion. That is not an easy opinion to give on this forum. I believe in the light doctrine per se. 1. I believe God judges and I do not and it is His heaven and not mine. So He can allow people that I may not and that is totally fine with me.

Like Jeff Arnold has said, there are people in this movement that would be so upset with God if they get to heaven and there are other demominations there. Like we had some right all by ourselves to be the only ones in heaven. The truth is that we can only go by what we believe we see the Bible says about salvation so we all have our own ideas about it. You may be right St.Matthew, but you may not. I used to feel the way you do, but after further reading and prayer I feel differently. I did not change to compromise, but I changed because what I feel God has told me and showed me.

I have one question for you. 2. If it is that only the ones that have completed all "3 skips" and they are the only ones that will go to heaven then why is heaven so big with so many mansion? That would be like building a 100,000 square foot office space, but only having 2 employees. No sense, but God's ways is above our ways.

1. I believe he judges too. I just believe that he will judge according to his word, and I have not found any reason to doubt what I see his word saying.

2. Do you really want me to answer this question?? I could counter your question by saying that Hell had to enlarge itself because so many stopped short of obeying the truth, but I wont. I WILL say that I do not believe the verse you are referring to is a literal promise of Rodeo Dr in heaven.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

1. I believe he judges too. I just believe that he will judge according to his word, and I have not found any reason to doubt what I see his word saying.

2. Do you really want me to answer this question?? I could counter your question by saying that Hell had to enlarge itself because so many stopped short of obeying the truth, but I wont. I WILL say that I do not believe the verse you are referring to is a literal promise of Rodeo Dr in heaven.

Yes, hell (hades, shoel, the grave) has enlarged itself, since folks continue to die.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Yes, hell (hades, shoel, the grave) has enlarged itself, since folks continue to die.

shĕ'owl (sheh·ole')

Part of Speech

feminine noun


Outline of Biblical Usage

1) sheol, underworld, grave, hell, pit

a) the underworld

b) Sheol - the OT designation for the abode of the dead

1) place of no return

2) without praise of God

3) wicked sent there for punishment

4) righteous not abandoned to it

5) of the place of exile (fig)

6) of extreme degradation in sin

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

So....um.....what you are saying is that there is absolutely no way for anyone to get into heaven with out the "3 skips" and a jump into heaven? Interesting. While I may not agree I commend you for you opinion. That is not an easy opinion to give on this forum. I believe in the light doctrine per se. I believe God judges and I do not and it is His heaven and not mine. So He can allow people that I may not and that is totally fine with me.

Like Jeff Arnold has said, there are people in this movement that would be so upset with God if they get to heaven and there are other demominations there. Like we had some right all by ourselves to be the only ones in heaven. The truth is that we can only go by what we believe we see the Bible says about salvation so we all have our own ideas about it. You may be right St.Matthew, but you may not. I used to feel the way you do, but after further reading and prayer I feel differently. I did not change to compromise, but I changed because what I feel God has told me and showed me.

I have one question for you. If it is that only the ones that have completed all "3 skips" and they are the only ones that will go to heaven then why is heaven so big with so many mansion? That would be like building a 100,000 square foot office space, but only having 2 employees. No sense, but God's ways is above our ways.

You are not far from truth!:sshhh