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View Poll Results: Do You Believe That God Is For The Death Penalty Under the NT Covenant?
I believe that He is for the death penalty 10 47.62%
I believe that He is for the death penalty and stoning people for adultery 0 0%
I do not believe that God is for the death penalty under the NT Covenant. 11 52.38%
I believe that God is for an eye for an eye. 0 0%
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:59 PM
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Is Ron Paul for the death penalty?
Ron Paul is a for the constitution... which means that Ron Paul would not make any calls on this issue from the position of a presidential candidate as this is an issue left to the states and one that the federal government has no business involving itself in.

Also... everyone will note that I have not said whether I am for it or against it. I was for it... I have my doubts now.

That is what discussion is for... finding the truth of the matter.
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Ron Paul is a for the constitution... which means that Ron Paul would not make any calls on this issue from the position of a presidential candidate as this is an issue left to the states and one that the federal government has no business involving itself in.

Also... everyone will note that I have not said whether I am for it or against it. I was for it... I have my doubts now.

That is what discussion is for... finding the truth of the matter.
Funny that you say you were for it, but now have your doubts. I personally am for what God is for, but I guess we all have our opinions as to what God is for.
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Ron Paul is a for the constitution... which means that Ron Paul would not make any calls on this issue from the position of a presidential candidate as this is an issue left to the states and one that the federal government has no business involving itself in.

Also... everyone will note that I have not said whether I am for it or against it. I was for it... I have my doubts now.

That is what discussion is for... finding the truth of the matter.
I am looking very hard at Ron Paul, he is the closet thing to Pat Buchanan.
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I am looking very hard at Ron Paul, he is the closet thing to Pat Buchanan.
That is good to hear.
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LOL! If he is then He'll have to vote for someone else.
Brother Eastman are you from Oklahoma?
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I personally am for what God is for,
It would be my hope that this would be the case.

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but I guess we all have our opinions as to what God is for.

That discovery is my current journey.
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It would be my hope that this would be the case.




That discovery is my current journey.
So should the church carry out public stonings? Or does the church wait for the powers that be (goverment law) to kill the offenders for them?

Where are the scriptures in the NT that allow for death penalty?
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So should the church carry out public stonings? Or does the church wait for the powers that be (goverment law) to kill the offenders for them?

Where are the scriptures in the NT that allow for death penalty?
That is actually my current question.

I have been for the death penalty in the past but I am increasingly having trouble reconciling that thought with the NT message.

I have no scriptures to offer in answer to your question. I share your question.
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I don't think the New Testament has any specific scripture for or against the death penalty. I believe that it is appropriate for government to use the death penalty in cases of egregious violent crimes as a punishment and a deterrent to others. I also think it is appropriate to show mercy in some circumstances.

I voted God is for the death penalty, but for further clarification, I see no evidence that he is against the death penalty.
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I don't think the New Testament has any specific scripture for or against the death penalty. I believe that it is appropriate for government to use the death penalty in cases of egregious violent crimes as a punishment and a deterrent to others. I also think it is appropriate to show mercy in some circumstances.

I voted God is for the death penalty, but for further clarification, I see no evidence that he is against the death penalty.
Thank you for a very thoughtfully worded post.

You have drawn a difference here that I think needs to be considered as well. What the secular world does and what we believe and hold as our own personal convictions are 2 different realms.

of course personal convictions would come into play if one did not believe in the death penalty and found themselves serving as a juror. But, as I understand it, they ask you that question and cull those out who cannot, for reasons of their own personal conviction, consider this as a possibility.
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