Murder-Suicide...Does God Ever Excuse Certain Sins?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Ferd

What I know now that I didnt know 3 years ago, is that depression is a deadly sickness (Chan and others who disagree please do NOT reply).
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I won't go into my own personal story, but I will say, depression can get very bad. Sometimes people have manic depression and don't know it! (bipolar)
"Normal" people can tell you to "get over it" or "things will get better" but if you've never dealt with it, you really don't know how bad things can get.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

I won't go into my own personal story, but I will say, depression can get very bad. Sometimes people have manic depression and don't know it! (bipolar)
"Normal" people can tell you to "get over it" or "things will get better" but if you've never dealt with it, you really don't know how bad things can get.

I also want to state that there are more and more elderly being treated with antidepressants than ever. It used to be thought that the depression they suffered from was due to old age and such, but it's more than that.

Think of how depressed you might be if you were put into a facility that is not your home where you are subjected to people coming into your room whether you want them to or not, you can't have certain items due to lack of space or a safety issue, you eat when they tell you to eat and what they tell you to eat, bring you pills constantly, tell you when to potty and go to bed......and that's just a small piece of the life of someone who is no longer able to care for themselves.

Knowing what I know, I can easily see how someone would take the life of someone they love, knowing they wouldn't want to live that way...and take their own life due to failing health and knowing what they will have to face if they continue living.

[QueenEsther]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I also want to state that there are more and more elderly being treated with antidepressants than ever. It used to be thought that the depression they suffered from was due to old age and such, but it's more than that.

Think of how depressed you might be if you were put into a facility that is not your home where you are subjected to people coming into your room whether you want them to or not, you can't have certain items due to lack of space or a safety issue, you eat when they tell you to eat and what they tell you to eat, bring you pills constantly, tell you when to potty and go to bed......and that's just a small piece of the life of someone who is no longer able to care for themselves.

Knowing what I know, I can easily see how someone would take the life of someone they love, knowing they wouldn't want to live that way...and take their own life due to failing health and knowing what they will have to face if they continue living.

Yes, it is very sad.

[QueenEsther]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

I won't go into my own personal story, but I will say, depression can get very bad. Sometimes people have manic depression and don't know it! (bipolar)
"Normal" people can tell you to "get over it" or "things will get better" but if you've never dealt with it, you really don't know how bad things can get.

True, but I truly believe that if you have the HG living inside of you you can overcome these things.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by QueenEsther

True, but I truly believe that if you have the HG living inside of you you can overcome these things.

We can get over all kinds of ailments and illnesses, but only if God wills it. Sometimes, we have to live and deal with situations.

[QueenEsther]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

We can get over all kinds of ailments and illnesses, but only if God wills it. Sometimes, we have to live and deal with situations.

Right, but I think someone with the HG would not be capable of killing themselves. I think it would be contradicting.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by QueenEsther

Right, but I think someone with the HG would not be capable of killing themselves. I think it would be contradicting.

I know people with the HG who also took their own life.

It's no more contradicting than a HG filled person lying, gossipping, coveting, or any other sin. We aren't sinless just because we have the HG.

[ReformedDave]

Haven't read the whole thread but for those who believe that suicide is unforgivable are you saying that Christ's sacrifice doesn't/can't apply?

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Haven't read the whole thread but for those who believe that suicide is unforgivable are you saying that Christ's sacrifice doesn't/can't apply?

You are right. The Bible mentions only one unforgiveable sin.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Haven't read the whole thread but for those who believe that suicide is unforgivable are you saying that Christ's sacrifice doesn't/can't apply?

It only applies if the person is elect of God and the person repents of his sin.