The Death Penalty

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Okay, when we spend taxpaying dollars for them to go to college, watch movies, have a rec room, and excersize equipment (among other things), its like not being in prison. Just because they have a fence with barbed wire on top, doesn't mean that they aren't treated well. I understand that it costs taxpayers $30,000.00 to house one prisoner for a year, this is justice?

Have you ever even visited a prison?

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Have you ever even visited a prison?

Nope, I've never been to prison. I do have firends (when I was in the Army National Guard) that were prison guards. They do get to watch movies, they do get an education and they even get to excersize when they want to. In fact I have a cousin that spent three years in a prison. The information that I recieved is from those that have direct contact with the prison system.

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Nope, I've never been to prison. I do have firends (when I was in the Army National Guard) that were prison guards. They do get to watch movies, they do get an education and they even get to excersize when they want to. In fact I have a cousin that spent three years in a prison. The information that I recieved is from those that have direct contact with the prison system.

With all due respect National Guard "prison" is in no way indicative of what most prisoners are subjected to. They live in constant fear of being raped, getting AIDS, TB is rampant, most are overcrowded and many sleep on urine covered floors because there are not enough bunks. Many join gangs while in prison just to survive. Once released these gang form their only social network. Neither mainstream, nor the church reaches out. These facts are true whether they are hard core when they go in, or merely a drug user, or a stupid kid who stole a car. Our prisons create the dangerous criminals.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

With all due respect National Guard "prison" is in no way indicative of what most prisoners are subjected to. They live in constant fear of being raped, getting AIDS, TB is rampant, most are overcrowded and many sleep on urine covered floors because there are not enough bunks. Many join gangs while in prison just to survive. Once released these gang form their only social network. Neither mainstream, nor the church reaches out. These facts are true whether they are hard core when they go in, or merely a drug user, or a stupid kid who stole a car. Our prisons create the dangerous criminals.

Indeed...

A minor, non violent offender can be sent to prison and come out a far worse individual than the one that went in there.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

With all due respect National Guard "prison" is in no way indicative of what most prisoners are subjected to. They live in constant fear of being raped, getting AIDS, TB is rampant, most are overcrowded and many sleep on urine covered floors because there are not enough bunks. Many join gangs while in prison just to survive. Once released these gang form their only social network. Neither mainstream, nor the church reaches out. These facts are true whether they are hard core when they go in, or merely a drug user, or a stupid kid who stole a car. Our prisons create the dangerous criminals.

Members in the National Guard are state prison guards as well as firefighters, police officers within a local and state capacity. I'm not talking about a military prison my friend.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Members in the National Guard are state prison guards as well as firefighters, police officers within a local and state capacity. I'm not talking about a military prison my friend.

Well I regularly visit several inmates in several facilities and I have not see what you your friend has seen.

Maybe we can find out where this place is and get the inmates that I visit transfered.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Well I regularly visit several inmates in several facilities and I have not see what you your friend has seen.

Maybe we can find out where this place is and get the inmates that I visit transfered.

Thats "friends" as in more than one. My cousin was also in prison, so I too have "sources". So, can you tell me that the prisoners that you've visited do not get to watch T.V.? They don't get to go outside and play basketball, and excersize with gym equipment? They do not get to read books and recieve an education? They don't get to eat three meals a day? Come on Digg!

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Thats "friends" as in more than one. My cousin was also in prison, so I too have "sources". So, can you tell me that the prisoners that you've visited do not get to watch T.V.? They don't get to go outside and play basketball, and excersize with gym equipment? They do not get to read books and recieve an education? They don't get to eat three meals a day? Come on Digg!

They do watch TV...

They do not get to read books or get an education.

To go outside, eat 3 meals and to exercise is a luxury to you?

Why would you not want them to get an education? I would think that getting an education would be a good way to make them more able to get out of their original lifestyle. Getting an education would seem to be a good move towards rehabilitation.

Do you want to rehabilitate them?

Is so... in what ways?