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View Poll Results: Do You Believe That God Is For The Death Penalty Under the NT Covenant?
I believe that He is for the death penalty 10 47.62%
I believe that He is for the death penalty and stoning people for adultery 0 0%
I do not believe that God is for the death penalty under the NT Covenant. 11 52.38%
I believe that God is for an eye for an eye. 0 0%
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:32 AM
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That is largely true. Occasionally the punishment is actually excessive. However, we make virtually no attempt at rehabilitation.
Would that be because prisoners are taking advantage of the system? If our prisons were really prisons, then they wouldn't want to go back.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:45 AM
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Would that be because prisoners are taking advantage of the system? If our prisons were really prisons, then they wouldn't want to go back.
Punishment will never be severe enough to redeem a man whether it be spiritually or simply in a manner of civic redemption.

Harsher punishments do not make nicer men.

Rehabilitation is the key. Real rehabilitation.

This would, to me, require the church becoming more active in the prisons (did not Jesus say I was in prison and you visited me not).

Jesus IS the answer... we have the answer.

Punishing them harder won't show them a better way. If they have their time to serve... then they need to serve it... but they need a real, relevant, one foot in front of the other rehabilitation that comes from the word & spirit of God.

That is their only hope. What is born of the flesh is flesh. They need a new birth.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:47 AM
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Punishment will never be severe enough to redeem a man whether it be spiritually or simply in a manner of civic redemption.

Harsher punishments do not make nicer men.

Rehabilitation is the key. Real rehabilitation.

This would, to me, require the church becoming more active in the prisons (did not Jesus say I was in prison and you visited me not).

Jesus IS the answer... we have the answer.

Punishing them harder won't show them a better way. If they have their time to serve... then they need to serve it... but they need a real, relevant, one foot in front of the other rehabilitation that comes from the word & spirit of God.

That is their only hope. What is born of the flesh is flesh. They need a new birth.
I agree with this post.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:27 AM
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Punishment will never be severe enough to redeem a man whether it be spiritually or simply in a manner of civic redemption.

Harsher punishments do not make nicer men.

Rehabilitation is the key. Real rehabilitation.

This would, to me, require the church becoming more active in the prisons (did not Jesus say I was in prison and you visited me not).

Jesus IS the answer... we have the answer.

Punishing them harder won't show them a better way. If they have their time to serve... then they need to serve it... but they need a real, relevant, one foot in front of the other rehabilitation that comes from the word & spirit of God.

That is their only hope. What is born of the flesh is flesh. They need a new birth.
Sorry Digg, I had already posted to an earlier response before I read your excellent answer.

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