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Old 09-27-2007, 10:38 PM
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I don't know if I would say he pandered.

How in the world could anything he said tonight "bite him?"

Even the most liberal UPC folks agreed with almost everything he said.
I think he was particularly rough on the left tonite ... PP ... on purpose ...

He singled them out very early in the second part of his message ...


When he said:
Your holiness in dress is a byproduct ... when you lose your conviction ... you soon will lose your walk w/ God ...

Some have said "I don't believe all that ..."

"I'm not going to teach separation against the world"

"I will still teach the New Birth .... and Acts 2:38"

If you sell out one area it will be easy to sell out the next ----

His intent tonite was rally around the banners of Acts 2:38 and Holiness ... as to send a unified message ... while still instilling fear in those on the left thinking of "compromising" by accepting a "watered down message" and appeasing the right by saying the key buzzwords as to keep them in the fold
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:44 PM
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I think he was particularly rough on the left tonite ... PP ... on purpose ...

He singled them out very early in the second part of his message ...


When he said:
Your holiness in dress is a byproduct ... when you lose your conviction ... you soon will lose your walk w/ God ...

Some have said "I don't believe all that ..."

"I'm not going to teach separation against the world"

"I will still teach the New Birth .... and Acts 2:38"

If you sell out one area it will be easy to sell out the next ----

His intent tonite was rally around the banners of Acts 2:38 and Holiness ... as to send a unified message ... while still instilling fear in those on the left thinking of "compromising" by accepting a "watered down message" and appeasing the right by saying the key buzzwords as to keep them in the fold
I cannot disagree.

I just think there are things he can't change, and he knows it.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:51 PM
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I think he was particularly rough on the left tonite ... PP ... on purpose ...

He singled them out very early in the second part of his message ...


When he said:
Your holiness in dress is a byproduct ... when you lose your conviction ... you soon will lose your walk w/ God ...

Some have said "I don't believe all that ..."

"I'm not going to teach separation against the world"

"I will still teach the New Birth .... and Acts 2:38"

If you sell out one area it will be easy to sell out the next ----

His intent tonite was rally around the banners of Acts 2:38 and Holiness ... as to send a unified message ... while still instilling fear in those on the left thinking of "compromising" by accepting a "watered down message" and appeasing the right by saying the key buzzwords.
Holiness standards vs the salvation message is a farce to think they have equal weight in Eternity.

If you lose the salvation message yes you may lose your moral convictions.

Holiness standards wrapped around a dress code are not moral landmarks.

They are only an oasis for men without discernment to get a one-sided glance on the allegiance of their followers.

Nothing new said in what I have stated.

You can skip 15 GC's and the sermon's sound like one long 60 year drumbeat.

Revival! Holiness Standards! >>>>>>>
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