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09-27-2007, 11:07 PM
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Daniel, buddy, VIRTUALLY NO ONE could possibly disagree with anything he said tonight! Even us so called libs and mods.
We are all against same-sex marriage, no?
We all believe in holiness, no?
We all believe we need to be careful who we run with - even and/or especially in the UPC, no?
We have all seen or heard of those who say they are just gonna lay down holiness, only to go on to throw off doctrine as well, no?
I don't see what he said that was so offensive to mods and libs.
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His diatribe on "Old-fashioned Holiness" started w/ Samson ... and this:
Your holiness in dress is a byproduct ... when you lose your conviction ... you soon will lose your walk w/ God ...
Some have said "I don't believe all that ..."
"I'm not going to teach separation against the world"
"I will still teach the New Birth .... and Acts 2:38"
If you sell out one area it will be easy to sell out the next ----
There are plenty on the left who could be offended that somehow they are compromising on the Message if they lose their convictions on certain dress standards.
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09-27-2007, 11:10 PM
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His diatribe on "Old-fashioned Holiness" started w/ Samson ... and this:
Your holiness in dress is a byproduct ... when you lose your conviction ... you soon will lose your walk w/ God ...
Some have said "I don't believe all that ..."
"I'm not going to teach separation against the world"
"I will still teach the New Birth .... and Acts 2:38"
If you sell out one area it will be easy to sell out the next ----
There are plenty on the left who could be offended that somehow they are compromising on the Message if they lose their convictions on dress standards. |
But Daniel, those are the centristic positions of the org whether anyone agrees or not. BTW, many do compromise the message when they "sell out" dress standards. Do you disagree?
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09-27-2007, 11:11 PM
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But Daniel, those are the centristic positions of the org whether anyone agrees or not. BTW, many do compromise the message when they "sell out" dress standards. Do you disagree?
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Some do ... some don't ... but again ... he made a conscious effort to single out the left ... while placating the right for political gain, IMO.
Are you selling out?
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09-27-2007, 11:14 PM
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But Daniel, those are the centristic positions of the org whether anyone agrees or not. BTW, many do compromise the message when they "sell out" dress standards. Do you disagree?
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Some do ... some don't ... but again ... he made a conscious effort to single out the left ... while placating the right for political gain, IMO.
Are you selling out?
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Bishop has seen enough of this to know that MOST DO...... FEW (very few) DON'T!
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09-27-2007, 11:18 PM
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Bishop has seen enough of this to know that MOST DO...... FEW (very few) DON'T!
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Hogwash ... poppycock ...
It's all about controlling the information about those who leave.
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09-27-2007, 11:14 PM
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Some do ... some don't ... but again ... he made a conscious effort to single out the left ... while placating the right for political gain, IMO.
Are you selling out?
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IMO, the left you speak of does not exist.
But I still love you even though we disagree.
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09-27-2007, 11:16 PM
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IMO, the left you speak of does not exist.
But I still love you even though we disagree.
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the left does exist within the org... we could name churches and pastors all nite ...
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09-27-2007, 11:17 PM
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the left does exist within the org... we could name churches and pastors all nite ...
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Agreed.
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09-27-2007, 11:47 PM
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IMO, the left you speak of does not exist.
But I still love you even though we disagree.
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Fair and Balanced
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09-27-2007, 11:20 PM
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Some do ... some don't ... but again ... he made a conscious effort to single out the left ... while placating the right for political gain, IMO.
Are you selling out?
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I just caught the bolded words. Ouch!
No Daniel, I am not selling out. It's just that this is my life, ya know?
It's all I have ever known. I do care about it, and hope it changes for the better.
As I sat in the business meeting today I considered the fact that if I were to walk away, I would lose any voice I have. There are no viable alternatives for fellowship. I would never be comfortable in the NCO because of their tolerance for trinitarianism. I would not be comfortable in the AWCF.
My only other option would be to go independent and have virtually no fellowship.
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