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Old 10-01-2007, 01:02 PM
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  • 12% OF ALL INTERNET WEBSITES ARE PORNOGRAPHIC.
  • 25% OF ALL INTERNET SEARCHES ARE PORNOGRAPHIC.
  • 35% OF ALL INTERNET DOWNLOADS ARE PORNOGRAPHIC.
  • EVERY SECOND 28,258 INTERNET USERS ARE VIEWING PORNOGRAPHY.
  • EVERY SECOND $89.00 IS SPENT ON INTERNET PORNOGRAPHY.
  • EVERY DAY 266 NEW PORN SITES APPEAR ON THE INTERNET.
  • "SEX" IS THE MOST SEARCHED WORD ON THE INTERNET.
  • U.S. REVENUE FROM PORN ON THE INTERNET FOR 2006 WAS $2.84 BILLION.
  • 72% OF INTERNET PORN USERS ARE MEN.
  • 70% OF INTERNET PORN USE OCCURS DURING THE 9-5 WORKDAY.
  • THERE ARE AN ESTIMATED 372,000,000 PORN WEB PAGES, 3% PRODUCED BY THE U.K, 4% PRODUCED BY GERMANY, AND 89% PRODUCED BY THE USA.

With even U.S. preachers saying internet is okay, but TV is not, no wonder the stats exist as they do for the USA. lol

You will not find those stats associated with TV!! Something is upsidedown!
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:12 PM
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  • 12% OF ALL INTERNET WEBSITES ARE PORNOGRAPHIC.
  • 25% OF ALL INTERNET SEARCHES ARE PORNOGRAPHIC.
  • 35% OF ALL INTERNET DOWNLOADS ARE PORNOGRAPHIC.
  • EVERY SECOND 28,258 INTERNET USERS ARE VIEWING PORNOGRAPHY.
  • EVERY SECOND $89.00 IS SPENT ON INTERNET PORNOGRAPHY.
  • EVERY DAY 266 NEW PORN SITES APPEAR ON THE INTERNET.
  • "SEX" IS THE MOST SEARCHED WORD ON THE INTERNET.
  • U.S. REVENUE FROM PORN ON THE INTERNET FOR 2006 WAS $2.84 BILLION.
  • 72% OF INTERNET PORN USERS ARE MEN.
  • 70% OF INTERNET PORN USE OCCURS DURING THE 9-5 WORKDAY.
  • THERE ARE AN ESTIMATED 372,000,000 PORN WEB PAGES, 3% PRODUCED BY THE U.K, 4% PRODUCED BY GERMANY, AND 89% PRODUCED BY THE USA.

With even U.S. preachers saying internet is okay, but TV is not, no wonder the stats exist as they do for the USA. lol

You will not find those stats associated with TV!! Something is upsidedown!
The stats don't lie....but can they be admitted to?

I'll say it again...if I took a no TV stand...I could not justify allowing the Internet...but that's just me!
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I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?

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Old 10-01-2007, 01:18 PM
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The stats don't lie....but can they be admitted to?

I'll say it again...if I took a no TV stand...I could not justify allowing the Internet...but that's just me!
Same with me. I always believed we should be Christians and avoid what is wrong, just as we do in everyday life.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:20 PM
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The stats don't lie....but can they be admitted to?

I'll say it again...if I took a no TV stand...I could not justify allowing the Internet...but that's just me!
To tell you the truth, both have failings to them. I have time to be on the internet because I am recovering from surgery on my foot & the doc says
1 more week off.

I am bored!

However, people are missing the point with TV-at the very least it is a time waster!

Do you really want all those ads to come into your home?
Ad agencies have execs regularly make 6 figure salary's or more because they
know that ADVERTISING WORKS!

Now, we haven't even touched on the programs yet, but with two strikes against it---why do you still defend it??

It seems as if it is a "Godly Right" we need to justify?
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:23 PM
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To tell you the truth, both have failings to them. I have time to be on the internet because I am recovering from surgery on my foot & the doc says
1 more week off.

I am bored!

However, people are missing the point with TV-at the very least it is a time waster!

Do you really want all those ads to come into your home?
Ad agencies have execs regularly make 6 figure salary's or more because they
know that ADVERTISING WORKS!

Now, we haven't even touched on the programs yet, but with two strikes against it---why do you still defend it??

It seems as if it is a "Godly Right" we need to justify?
BINGO!!!!! If it works, then why shouldn't we use it?

Allowing advertising DOES NOT equate to the full uninhibited acceptance of TV.... if internet can be embraced with controlls and discression, why not TV? If internet can be allowed with filters, then why not TV? Or rather, why not just allow TV advertising, and then teach about the wisdom of not having one in the home? I don't see this as a double standard at all!!! If advertising works, let's use it!
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:27 PM
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BINGO!!!!! If it works, then why shouldn't we use it?

I agree with you it works-but only it certain mediums.
An idiot box is great for getting things of the world pushed onto people.
This salvation message was meant for a "one on one" or "personal touch"
not a "reach out and touch your wide screen TV'S and yea let the Lord heal
thee of that sickness!"
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:35 PM
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I agree with you it works-but only it certain mediums.
An idiot box is great for getting things of the world pushed onto people.
This salvation message was meant for a "one on one" or "personal touch"
not a "reach out and touch your wide screen TV'S and yea let the Lord heal
thee of that sickness!"
We are talking about using the media of television to advertise the local church, or church functions, in an affective way to put us in contact with seekers, so that one on one evangelism can be accomplished... ADVERTISING on tv doesn't preclude one on one evangelism, but it could more effectively facilitate it.

Also, Talmadge French began to receieve revelation from HARVESTIME radio broadcasts. Why could there not be a couple hundres or so more Talmadge French's who could be convinced and receive revelation via a televised edition of "Harvestime"?????
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:40 PM
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I agree with you it works-but only it certain mediums.
An idiot box is great for getting things of the world pushed onto people.
This salvation message was meant for a "one on one" or "personal touch"
not a "reach out and touch your wide screen TV'S and yea let the Lord heal
thee of that sickness!"
the "idiot box" doesn't move much of anything...

You don't sell a car by tvs... you get the car in people's heads so when they think about buying a car the first thing they think of is your car...

Why do you think Geico uses cavemen in the modern world to sell car insurance??? Not because it has anythign to do with the product, but because its silly and gets thier name out there and "Geico" on peopel's minds... Then when they need insurance, "Geico" is the first thing they think of...

same with everything else...

What advertising will do is make it so people think of our churches and our message when they are hurting and are seeking God or looking for a church...
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I agree with you it works-but only it certain mediums.
An idiot box is great for getting things of the world pushed onto people.
This salvation message was meant for a "one on one" or "personal touch"
not a "reach out and touch your wide screen TV'S and yea let the Lord heal
thee of that sickness!"
After spending billions of dollars you'd think someone would get a clue that only certain mediums work and stop spending money on the ones that don't work...Why don't we decide which out reach methods work the best and get rid of the others? Which is better? Door knocking or Internet advertisements?

BTW personal touch? ok, get rid of radio, get rid of magazines, newspapers and interent. Don't leave tracts anywhere or fliers. No more mailouts
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:37 PM
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To tell you the truth, both have failings to them. I have time to be on the internet because I am recovering from surgery on my foot & the doc says
1 more week off.

I am bored!

However, people are missing the point with TV-at the very least it is a time waster!

Do you really want all those ads to come into your home?
Ad agencies have execs regularly make 6 figure salary's or more because they
know that ADVERTISING WORKS!

Now, we haven't even touched on the programs yet, but with two strikes against it---why do you still defend it??

It seems as if it is a "Godly Right" we need to justify?
I don't have to defend TV....that's not what this is about.

I was raised UPC...with a TV...so I never lived the no tv life.

Does advertising work...it does..on the tv, radio, billboards, convenience stores, magazines, internet, and all the other places ads are placed...

The bottom line is this...we choose what influences us...and we don't just sit there and have our noses 1 inch away from the TV ads and go...I gotta go get that beer or whatever....but there are plenty of people with their nose 1 inch away from the computer screen....
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