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Old 10-01-2007, 01:54 PM
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So you can't defend it?
when you give me a reason for your hypocritical doctrine, I'll give you a real defense of my non-hypocritical one...
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:56 PM
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when you give me a reason for your hypocritical doctrine, I'll give you a real defense of my non-hypocritical one...
What is "MY" hypocritical doctrine??

Explain?
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:57 PM
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What is "MY" hypocritical doctrine??

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anti-tv, pro-internet = hypocritical

explain how tv is worse than the internet and how it is impossible to police your tv viewing and I'll come up with a legit argument that we should be able to advertise/broadcast on tv... I might even come up with one for watching it...
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:58 PM
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when you give me a reason for your hypocritical doctrine, I'll give you a real defense of my non-hypocritical one...
I hate to butt in here. but honestly Ron isnt on of the ones, such a charge can be leveled at.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:59 PM
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I hate to butt in here. but honestly Ron isnt on of the ones, such a charge can be leveled at.
it was a "royal" you, not a specific "you", sorry if that was misunderstood... (although I did assume he was in support of the anti-tv thing)
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:09 PM
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it was a "royal" you, not a specific "you", sorry if that was misunderstood... (although I did assume he was in support of the anti-tv thing)
I am saying that letting things be as they were was probably the safe way to be.

I will say that someone can watch TV and still go to heaven, but TV isn't all it is cracked up to be either.

Yes, internet has it's pitfalls-one is wasting time taking away from the work of God & spending time with ones own family.

I will say this, if TV advertising turns out to be the thing that causes "large legitimate evangelism" resulting in a huge influx to our churches while not watering down our doctrine-I will be the first to stand up and apologize!

I can do that-ask Ferd.

Right now, I just think that the cost is too great if it results in a split.
I hate splits & division and I know God does as well.


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Old 10-01-2007, 02:19 PM
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I am saying that letting things be as they were was probably the safe way to be.

I will say that someone can watch TV and still go to heaven, but TV isn't all it is cracked up to be either.

Yes, internet has it's pitfalls-one is wasting time taking away from the work of God & spending time with ones own family.

I will say this, if TV advertising turns out to be the thing that causes "large legitimate evangelism" resulting in a huge influx to our churches while not watering down our doctrine-I will be the first to stand up and apologize!

I can do that-ask Ferd.

Right now, I just think that the cost is too great if it results in a split.
I hate splits & division and I know God does as well.


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the thing is... I don't think its this issue that is causing the split...

I think, especially reading the posts of the UCs on here and realizing they are splitting and planning on doing it immediately after it was passed, that they were only going to stay as long as everything was done exactly how they wanted it...

it was only a matter of time before those brethren either split or forced the people they didn't want around (the people on the more liberal side of things) to split...

a split was inevitable because one side refused to even discuss things... no amount of negotiation or time or anything was going to stop the inevitable...
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:22 PM
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the thing is... I don't think its this issue that is causing the split...

I think, especially reading the posts of the UCs on here and realizing they are splitting and planning on doing it immediately after it was passed, that they were only going to stay as long as everything was done exactly how they wanted it...

it was only a matter of time before those brethren either split or forced the people they didn't want around (the people on the more liberal side of things) to split...

a split was inevitable because one side refused to even discuss things... no amount of negotiation or time or anything was going to stop the inevitable...
well it is a lot more complicated than your explination, but I do agree with you that TV isnt the cause of any split. To quote some of the men that are leaving, this was just the final straw.
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:24 PM
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well it is a lot more complicated than your explination, but I do agree with you that TV isnt the cause of any split. To quote some of the men that are leaving, this was just the final straw.
This is true as well.
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:26 PM
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well it is a lot more complicated than your explination, but I do agree with you that TV isnt the cause of any split. To quote some of the men that are leaving, this was just the final straw.
I don't even know about that...

I think it was just everyone else finally calling them on thier "my way or the highway" claim...

so now they either need to back off on thier demands that eveyrone does everything thier way and actually discuss things and find compromises, or actually choose the highway like they threatened to do...
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