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Old 10-01-2007, 10:42 PM
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I used a veggie tale movie to teach about temptation. 3 kids got the Holy Ghost.
No they didn't. Fred Flintstone Holy Ghost? Yeah right, talk about Mensa, Price has more sense than that.

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The more you post the more I wonder if you and Bill Price attend the same mensa meetings.
And this is coming from a man who believes cartoons helps kids get the Holy Ghost. Good grief.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:45 PM
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No they didn't. Fred Flintstone Holy Ghost? Yeah right, talk about Mensa, Price has more sense than that.



And this is coming from a man who believes cartoons helps kids get the Holy Ghost. Good grief.
Evang. Ben,

I see the old Ben is back, the current news has created a field day for your old man, wouldn't you agree?

I know you are capable of better. Blessings, Bro.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:20 PM
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Evang. Ben,

I see the old Ben is back, the current news has created a field day for your old man, wouldn't you agree?

I know you are capable of better. Blessings, Bro.
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I will always call them like I see them, and thank you for the blessing.

The Lord bless you and your family my friend.

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Old 10-01-2007, 11:43 PM
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No they didn't. Fred Flintstone Holy Ghost? Yeah right, talk about Mensa, Price has more sense than that.



And this is coming from a man who believes cartoons helps kids get the Holy Ghost. Good grief.
EB I understand that you are in mourning, your posts have became markedly more defensive. As to this post do you really doubt God? That if He could use a donkey to speak to a prophet and save him life, that God is so limited that He could not use a cartoon as a vehicle to help save a child?
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No they didn't. Fred Flintstone Holy Ghost? Yeah right, talk about Mensa, Price has more sense than that.



And this is coming from a man who believes cartoons helps kids get the Holy Ghost. Good grief.


Fred Flintstone isn't a vegetable, he's a caveman... thus he isn't in Veggietales... you have to be a vegetable (or, occassionally, a fruit) to be on Veggietales...

just figured I'd point that out... The rest of your post (as is usual with your posts) is completely worthless and simply goes to show your complete disconnect from reality, so I'll pretend its not there...
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Old 10-02-2007, 05:21 AM
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I forgot. Nobody gets the Holy Ghost without a bryl cream prophet mentioning they are going to hell.

You have so little faith in God. Frankly I don't want your phony holy ghost. It is nothing like the Holy GHost poured out in the Book of Acts. You make me sick.
Trivializing a child's Holy Ghost experience is blasphemous. I would expect nothing less from someone who is controlled by a leagalistic spirit. Your legalistic attitude did not come from God.

THe Bible says it is better to hang a millstone around your neck than to offend a little one. There isn't a rock big enough for you to swing from after your Fred Flinstone Holy Ghost comments.


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No they didn't. Fred Flintstone Holy Ghost? Yeah right, talk about Mensa, Price has more sense than that.



And this is coming from a man who believes cartoons helps kids get the Holy Ghost. Good grief.
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:41 PM
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I forgot. Nobody gets the Holy Ghost without a bryl cream prophet mentioning they are going to hell.
No, no one gets the Holy Ghost through insane stupidty.

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You have so little faith in God.
Oh I have faith in God and His Word, not in stories, if I wanted religious mythology I would look up the Mormons or a Kabbalist Rabbi.



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Frankly I don't want your phony holy ghost.
You see this is where you lose your argument and you get frustrated.
You see, I'm not buying your story. I happen to not believe that young people will get the Spirit of Christ by viewing a talking pickle. Sorry.



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It is nothing like the Holy GHost poured out in the Book of Acts.
Yep, it's NOT like the HOLY GHOST poured out in anytime. Hey you can believe as you very well please, I just don't accept your story. You want to believe that people can get the Holy Ghost by being prayed through by an talking onion, then that's your trial.


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You make me sick.
Grow up.

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Trivializing a child's Holy Ghost experience is blasphemous.
Wrong that's not correct, I'm just not agreeing with your story about cartoon vegetables causing children to receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

Hey, this is your trial not mine, no need to get angry, mad or sad, I just think it's false.


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I would expect nothing less from someone who is controlled by a leagalistic spirit. Your legalistic attitude did not come from God.
Yawn, come off it son, try to accept that someone on this planet does not believe what you're saying. It doesn't mean you're a bad man, or that you're lost, it just means that an individual is not accepting what you posted.
No problem, just go and strengthen your argument if you have one. If you can't then don't cry when I come back at you sarcastically, especially when you are going out of your way to be toxic. I can deal with it, I don't take it personal, but it sad when some one wants to knock heads over un-provable foolishness and I come back with a retort and I get reported and banned. So do me a favor, you want to believe in Veggie Tale Holy Ghost experiences then have at it, just don't expect the rest of the free thinking world to sit at your feet because of it.

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THe Bible says it is better to hang a millstone around your neck than to offend a little one.
Offend a little one? Are you a babe in Christ? Are you saying that you're a child? Understand this I'm not telling new converts and their parents that animated celery will cause their kids to repent and receive the Spirit of Christ. That's your deal, so it's your stone to bare, not mine.



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There isn't a rock big enough for you to swing from after your Fred Flinstone Holy Ghost comments.
Whatever, Hey, I think the whole thing is sad, so keep us posted to the mighty revival you will be having at your Church when you televise re-runs of Ren and Stimpy.

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No, no one gets the Holy Ghost through insane stupidty.



Oh I have faith in God and His Word, not in stories, if I wanted religious mythology I would look up the Mormons or a Kabbalist Rabbi.





You see this is where you lose your argument and you get frustrated.
You see, I'm not buying your story. I happen to not believe that young people will get the Spirit of Christ by viewing a talking pickle. Sorry.





Yep, it's NOT like the HOLY GHOST poured out in anytime. Hey you can believe as you very well please, I just don't accept your story. You want to believe that people can get the Holy Ghost by being prayed through by an talking onion, then that's your trial.




Grow up.



Wrong that's not correct, I'm just not agreeing with your story about cartoon vegetables causing children to receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

Hey, this is your trial not mine, no need to get angry, mad or sad, I just think it's false.




Yawn, come off it son, try to accept that someone on this planet does not believe what you're saying. It doesn't mean you're a bad man, or that you're lost, it just means that an individual is not accepting what you posted.
No problem, just go and strengthen your argument if you have one. If you can't then don't cry when I come back at you sarcastically, especially when you are going out of your way to be toxic. I can deal with it, I don't take it personal, but it sad when some one wants to knock heads over un-provable foolishness and I come back with a retort and I get reported and banned. So do me a favor, you want to believe in Veggie Tale Holy Ghost experiences then have at it, just don't expect the rest of the free thinking world to sit at your feet because of it.



Offend a little one? Are you a babe in Christ? Are you saying that you're a child? Understand this I'm not telling new converts and their parents that animated celery will cause their kids to repent and receive the Spirit of Christ. That's your deal, so it's your stone to bare, not mine.





Whatever, Hey, I think the whole thing is sad, so keep us posted to the mighty revival you will be having at your Church when you televise re-runs of Ren and Stimpy.

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Bro. EB, I just want to make a couple of points. I have seen kids pray through after nothing more than a puppet skit, and or some other kind of theatrical presentation. The message during the puppet skit brought conviction, children were praying, crying, and receiving the Holy Ghost in the altars. Why could not the exact same message be communicated on a video recording of that exact same skit? Not that this should be the only or primary method of communicating truth, but that it CAN simply be an alternate method, and variation. Kids are open to things like that. I don't personally know about the message being communicated through veggie tales, but if a puppet show can bring conviction, why couldn't talking vegetables? I think it would really be beneficial for you and your ministry to consider critically and alalytically what is being introduced. Noone is saying that they are going to resort to puppet shows or vegetable cartoons solely in their efforts to communicate to children, but they may consider it simply as an alternative and variation to some of the other methods they use.

BTW brother, keep us posted as well on the revivals you are having!! Lord bless you my brother!
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Bro. EB, I just want to make a couple of points. I have seen kids pray through after nothing more than a puppet skit, and or some other kind of theatrical presentation. The message during the puppet skit brought conviction, children were praying, crying, and receiving the Holy Ghost in the altars. Why could not the exact same message be communicated on a video recording of that exact same skit? Not that this should be the only or primary method of communicating truth, but that it CAN simply be an alternate method, and variation. Kids are open to things like that. I don't personally know about the message being communicated through veggie tales, but if a puppet show can bring conviction, why couldn't talking vegetables? I think it would really be beneficial for you and your ministry to consider critically and alalytically what is being introduced. Noone is saying that they are going to resort to puppet shows or vegetable cartoons solely in their efforts to communicate to children, but they may consider it simply as an alternative and variation to some of the other methods they use.

BTW brother, keep us posted as well on the revivals you are having!! Lord bless you my brother!
It goes in one ear and out the other brother....after awhile I have to wonder if this is an inherit ability to do that or are they seeing your point and see how valid it is and because they still want to have their way they distort the point.

That is the problem with ignoring logic and making logical fallacies. People tend to think that ignoring a valid argment and twisting it is an honest and legit way to find the truth or allow truth to prevail. If their argument was true it should rest on the basis of the facts they present and not on the basis of repeating the same assertions over and over (ad nausem), distorting your arguments (strawman argument) and misdirection (red herring)
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Bro. EB, I just want to make a couple of points. I have seen kids pray through after nothing more than a puppet skit, and or some other kind of theatrical presentation. The message during the puppet skit brought conviction, children were praying, crying, and receiving the Holy Ghost in the altars. Why could not the exact same message be communicated on a video recording of that exact same skit? Not that this should be the only or primary method of communicating truth, but that it CAN simply be an alternate method, and variation. Kids are open to things like that. I don't personally know about the message being communicated through veggie tales, but if a puppet show can bring conviction, why couldn't talking vegetables? I think it would really be beneficial for you and your ministry to consider critically and alalytically what is being introduced. Noone is saying that they are going to resort to puppet shows or vegetable cartoons solely in their efforts to communicate to children, but they may consider it simply as an alternative and variation to some of the other methods they use.

BTW brother, keep us posted as well on the revivals you are having!! Lord bless you my brother!
Thank you for the information Brother and I have no doubt that a child can receive the Gospel message through preaching and teaching and that a child can receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of tongues. As far as the veggie tales goes I am 100% convinced in my mind that not one human being could get the Holy Ghost from viewing it. I appreciate you taking the time to present your thoughts on puppet ministry, but I don't see the pickle preacher having any effect. If talking turnips has had an effect then why are those who watch the videos un-changed?

I don't believe that Veggie Tales has anything to do with Jesus Christ and that's my opinion.

Thank you for the blessing on what we are doing in South Florida and the Lord richly bless you and your ministry.

In Jesus name

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