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10-05-2007, 07:37 PM
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This thread has turned to the subject of affiliation...that's not the point. There are many licensed ministers that pastor non affiliated churches. We are talking about alienation.
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Is it alienation to not fellowship those that do not hold the same standards you do, and yet still have fellowship with those that do??
See, while I am in agreement that a conservative should not force those things that are convictions upon those that do not have them, I also am against the libs that think they have to force the conservative to "accept their liberties". This could be looked at as the same spirit that the homosexuals have when they attempt to force acceptance of their lifestyle.
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10-05-2007, 07:42 PM
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10-05-2007, 07:43 PM
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Is it alienation to not fellowship those that do not hold the same standards you do, and yet still have fellowship with those that do??
See, while I am in agreement that a conservative should not force those things that are convictions upon those that do not have them, I also am against the libs that think they have to force the conservative to "accept their liberties". This could be looked at as the same spirit that the homosexuals have when they attempt to force acceptance of their lifestyle.
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UUUUHHHMMM.... Bro. Matthew sir, with all do respect, I do not like the t.v. thing. But haven't we always been the UNITED Pentecostal Church? Emphasis on united. Isn't it kind of unfair to liken your brethren who hasn't always agreed on everything as a homosexual? I think thats unfair.
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10-05-2007, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Is it alienation to not fellowship those that do not hold the same standards you do, and yet still have fellowship with those that do??
See, while I am in agreement that a conservative should not force those things that are convictions upon those that do not have them, I also am against the libs that think they have to force the conservative to "accept their liberties". This could be looked at as the same spirit that the homosexuals have when they attempt to force acceptance of their lifestyle.
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"Same spirit?" Whoa, Matt. Someone preaching that "Christ has made you free..." is of the same spirit as a homosexual?
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10-05-2007, 07:46 PM
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"Same spirit?" Whoa, Matt. Someone preaching that "Christ has made you free..." is of the same spirit as a homosexual?
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I was kind of wondering about that myself.
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10-05-2007, 07:48 PM
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Is it alienation to not fellowship those that do not hold the same standards you do, and yet still have fellowship with those that do??
See, while I am in agreement that a conservative should not force those things that are convictions upon those that do not have them, I also am against the libs that think they have to force the conservative to "accept their liberties". This could be looked at as the same spirit that the homosexuals have when they attempt to force acceptance of their lifestyle.
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UUUUHHHMMM.... Bro. Matthew sir, with all do respect, I do not like the t.v. thing. But haven't we always been the UNITED Pentecostal Church? Emphasis on united. Isn't it kind of unfair to liken your brethren who hasn't always agreed on everything as a homosexual? I think thats unfair.
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Originally Posted by pelathais
"Same spirit?" Whoa, Matt. Someone preaching that "Christ has made you free..." is of the same spirit as a homosexual?
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no response?
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10-05-2007, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Is it alienation to not fellowship those that do not hold the same standards you do, and yet still have fellowship with those that do??
See, while I am in agreement that a conservative should not force those things that are convictions upon those that do not have them, I also am against the libs that think they have to force the conservative to "accept their liberties". This could be looked at as the same spirit that the homosexuals have when they attempt to force acceptance of their lifestyle.
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
UUUUHHHMMM.... Bro. Matthew sir, with all do respect, I do not like the t.v. thing. But haven't we always been the UNITED Pentecostal Church? Emphasis on united. Isn't it kind of unfair to liken your brethren who hasn't always agreed on everything as a homosexual? I think thats unfair.
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"Same spirit?" Whoa, Matt. Someone preaching that "Christ has made you free..." is of the same spirit as a homosexual?
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Took me a moment to get back here....
Note I said "COULD". And I did not state that for the Libs alone, as the cons could be in the same catagory. Any spirit that would "force" acceptance or compliance is not of God, as God does not "force" acceptance or compliance.
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10-05-2007, 08:06 PM
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Took me a moment to get back here....
Note I said "COULD". And I did not state that for the Libs alone, as the cons could be in the same catagory. Any spirit that would "force" acceptance or compliance is not of God, as God does not "force" acceptance or compliance.
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Gotcha.
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10-05-2007, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Took me a moment to get back here....
Note I said "COULD". And I did not state that for the Libs alone, as the cons could be in the same catagory. Any spirit that would "force" acceptance or compliance is not of God, as God does not "force" acceptance or compliance.
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Okay. Putting the frilly sock on both feet mollifies my concerns.
This "spirit" is one of "control?" When someone (from either end of the spectrum and from any point in between) tries to "force" or "control" their brethren it is a manifestation of a "homosexual spirit?"
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10-05-2007, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Okay. Putting the frilly sock on both feet mollifies my concerns.
This "spirit" is one of "control?" When someone (from either end of the spectrum and from any point in between) tries to "force" or "control" their brethren it is a manifestation of a "homosexual spirit?"
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I wouldn't take it that far. I think the 2 are separate. The homo spirit is one of perversion. The spirit that demands acceptance is one that attempts to control and dominate, and bring one under submission to it.
I am no expert on this by any means, and have failed in my attempts in the past to explain what I see in this.
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