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Old 10-11-2007, 07:39 AM
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Ok...let's take a simple, long-used example, and assess the individual's salvation status, given the circumstances...it's elemental, but intuitive...

"Suppose, during an especially blessed service, an individual repents and receives the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Shortly, after service, without benefit of water baptism, that same individual is struck and killed by an automobile."

Salvation status, anyone...anyone???
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:02 AM
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Ok...let's take a simple, long-used example, and assess the individual's salvation status, given the circumstances...it's elemental, but intuitive...

"Suppose, during an especially blessed service, an individual repents and receives the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Shortly, after service, without benefit of water baptism, that same individual is struck and killed by an automobile."

Salvation status, anyone...anyone???
RevBuddy, while the scenario itself may in fact represent something that could happen, it does a great disservice to the discussion.

The attempt here is to provide an exception that disproves the rule. The Rule however, is not disproven by creating an exception!

What God does in his own council, is no business of ours. Our job is to teach the rule and not get in God’s business.

Simply there is no good answer to your question from a human perspective. I will teach and live that EVERYBODY needs to obey Acts 2:38 without fail.

I will also trust that God is well able to make his own decisions.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:13 AM
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Ok...let's take a simple, long-used example, and assess the individual's salvation status, given the circumstances...it's elemental, but intuitive...

"Suppose, during an especially blessed service, an individual repents and receives the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Shortly, after service, without benefit of water baptism, that same individual is struck and killed by an automobile."

Salvation status, anyone...anyone???
Not gonna happen. God is the Author and Finisher of our faith. If he calls someone to salvation he will keep them alive to fulfill its necessary requirements.
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the old what ifs arguments.

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Ok...let's take a simple, long-used example, and assess the individual's salvation status, given the circumstances...it's elemental, but intuitive...

"Suppose, during an especially blessed service, an individual repents and receives the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Shortly, after service, without benefit of water baptism, that same individual is struck and killed by an automobile."

Salvation status, anyone...anyone???
What if Ruth and naomi hadn't become widows, would we all still waite for a savior?
Generally the "what ifs' questions " people, really don't want answers. They want to express doubts.



Acts 19
1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

7And all the men were about twelve.

8And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and

Salvation is not "intuitive"

It loooks like Paul here goes back to acts 2:38 and has a "get done" moment. This passage looks like paul understood what peter preached. Do you understand this? Does it fit with luke 24:47? Then what is to question.

Act 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

People that repent and submit to the LORD aren't lookin for loopholes and doing the what ifs.
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:18 PM
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Re: question on baptism

What is the (one single) name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost?
What is the (one single) name of the Lord Jesus Christ?
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