Disaffiliation with the UPC????

hometown guy · #1 10-19-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by anapko81

With this issue of disaffiliation begs the question, what are they afraid of? Come on, all parties can turn this to their advantage if they want to. To simply cry, "We'll disaffiliate" is doing nothing but running scared! What will they to if they leave, join another group, independent or not, and an issue like this comes up there? Run again? WOW, now that's a good pastor, he runs from controversy!!!

no. if my pastor decided to go then i think of him as a man with a backbone thats not scared to stand for what he belives. him and his family have been in the upc for 30+ years and they have kept the same stand that they had back then why change it now.

Praxeas · #2 10-19-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy

no. if my pastor decided to go then i think of him as a man with a backbone thats not scared to stand for what he belives. him and his family have been in the upc for 30+ years and they have kept the same stand that they had back then why change it now.

Are they against all video use, even to the point of saying it is wrong to own a VCR or a DVD player or any sort of Video player?

hometown guy · #3 10-20-2007, 12:43 AM

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Are they against all video use, even to the point of saying it is wrong to own a VCR or a DVD player or any sort of Video player?

we not watch any video(or any type of video t.v ect.) therefore we do not have any need to own a vcr or dvd player.

Praxeas · #4 10-20-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy

we not watch any video(or any type of video t.v ect.) therefore we do not have any need to own a vcr or dvd player.

Ok...but what about the computer? You can watch Mpegs...most new computers have a DVD player built in....in fact ALL newer computers have a DVD player built in. Is it Microsoft? Did you uninstall Windows Media Player and all other media players? Do you have flash installed in Internet Explorer or whatever browser you use?

Does this injunction include not watching Oneness preaching on the internet?
Do you have a cell phone or digital camera that takes and views video?

hometown guy · #5 10-20-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Ok...but what about the computer? You can watch Mpegs...most new computers have a DVD player built in....in fact ALL newer computers have a DVD player built in. Is it Microsoft? Did you uninstall Windows Media Player and all other media players? Do you have flash installed in Internet Explorer or whatever browser you use?

Does this injunction include not watching Oneness preaching on the internet?
Do you have a cell phone or digital camera that takes and views video?

i already said that you can get video on all of this. thats why it has to be in your heart .and yes we have blocks that are on our computers.and my phone probelly could get tv but its in my heart that i will not watch it because i understand the danger in it.

Praxeas · #6 10-20-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy

i already said that you can get video on all of this. thats why it has to be in your heart .and yes we have blocks that are on our computers.and my phone probelly could get tv but its in my heart that i will not watch it because i understand the danger in it.

Right...then someone could also have a TV and understand the dangers of it and filter or be discerning against certain bad content and avoid them....right?

Steve Epley · #7 10-20-2007, 02:44 PM

I confess all this techno stuff is over my head. But the principle is the same. I don't have a television, or have Hollywood commercial style video, or watch anything like that on DVD or anywhere else.

hometown guy · #8 10-20-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Right...then someone could also have a TV and understand the dangers of it and filter or be discerning against certain bad content and avoid them....right?

tell me(guess)how many good wholesome shows are on tv.and if you find some what about the commercials.now the computer other then sites like this i LISTEN to preaching and use it for work related stuff. the computer still serves a purpose not JUST entertainment.

anapko · #9 10-19-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy

no. if my pastor decided to go then i think of him as a man with a backbone thats not scared to stand for what he belives. him and his family have been in the upc for 30+ years and they have kept the same stand that they had back then why change it now.

Okay, I get your drift, but what concerns me as to the "Cons" revulsion to resolution 4 is a big misconception. I never got the understanding that the UPC was forcing it's members to go out and buy a tv and force them to watch it! The reaction of the "Cons" is how it appears to me! My comments simply said what are they afraid of? It does sound to me like they are running from a "problem". Their solution, disaffiliation. Your thoughts?

hometown guy · #10 10-20-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by anapko81

Okay, I get your drift, but what concerns me as to the "Cons" revulsion to resolution 4 is a big misconception. I never got the understanding that the UPC was forcing it's members to go out and buy a tv and force them to watch it! The reaction of the "Cons" is how it appears to me! My comments simply said what are they afraid of? It does sound to me like they are running from a "problem". Their solution, disaffiliation. Your thoughts?

the reason why it is a big deal is because the door that has been opened will lead to other things concerning t.v. we understand that as of now it is only allowing upc pastors to advertise..do you think that the ones that are advertisig are really ever going to preach against it(because the upc is against wathing tv.)no way.we are not afraid of this res. we just have a big conviction about it.and i personally feel if we stayed in, then we are supporting that whitch we strongly preach against.