A question from a saint... for anyone that would like to give an answer...

[mfblume]

Every denomination and movement has some things that are "dated", and were right for that date, but not another. Robes were exchanged for pants at one time or other.

Every group has traditions, also, that are wrong, though held by people who are quite sincere in thinking they are correct. No one is perfect here yet.

People generally adhere tenaciously to what teachings they were first taught, never to consider anything different, be it Mormon doctrine or whatever. That is good if they were taught the truth at first. But what if some error was mixed amongst the truths they were first taught? So few people can allow even GOD to change them if they are in error. Just because something happened by our ears, in the form of teaching, before another message did, does not mean it is correct. What about the person who heard something else preached to them first before what we first heard preached to us? If everyone was to go by whatever they first heard preached, and stuck to it with all their guns, closed to the possibility they may be wrong in perhaps ONE area or ALL of it, SOMEONE IS WRONG and will never be recovered if they happen to have been taught error.

I believe the Holy Ghost came to guide us into all truth. The moment we think we do not have to be led any more, nor corrected about any teaching any more, is the moment the Spirit leaves us. So it is only to be expected that things change as time goes by in the way of beliefs.

But a person can go in one of three ways! One can change from a belief and thereby depart from truth. On the other hand, it may mean change TO truth. Or, it may mean change from what is error to another error.

So it is rather circular, and really only spinning our wheels, when we compare what we believed and were taught in the past with what we believe differently and are taught differently now. What if BOTH teachings are wrong? How do we know? Everyone says the bible says what they believe, from Mormons to us Apostolics. The bible is not the problem. It's OUR INTERPRETATION of the Bible that can be the problem. Yes, there is ONE interpretation that is correct and all others are wrong. We can say that for every single verse of the bible. Which one is correct? It is the one we must pray about in order for God to show us, and towards which we must be open for correction. If we already know the truth about a verse, then we still should pray for correction, because ultimately only God knows if we do have it right, and he will confirm it if we do.

This is why we must seek God with everything sincere in us, and pray "lead me not into temptation, but deliver me from evil." Pray that God keeps us on, or directs us to, the narrow way which leadeth unto life, where few there be that find it.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Every denomination and movement has some things that are "dated", and were right for that date, but not another. Robes were exchanged for pants at one time or other.

Every group has traditions, also, that are wrong, though held by people who are quite sincere in thinking they are correct. No one is perfect here yet.

People generally adhere tenaciously to what teachings they were first taught, never to consider anything different, be it Mormon doctrine or whatever. That is good if they were taught the truth at first. But what if some error was mixed amongst the truths they were first taught? So few people can allow even GOD to change them if they are in error. Just because something happened by our ears, in the form of teaching, before another message did, does not mean it is correct. What about the person who heard something else preached to them first before what we first heard preached to us? If everyone was to go by whatever they first heard preached, and stuck to it with all their guns, closed to the possibility they may be wrong in perhaps ONE area or ALL of it, SOMEONE IS WRONG and will never be recovered if they happen to have been taught error.

I believe the Holy Ghost came to guide us into all truth. The moment we think we do not have to be led any more, nor corrected about any teaching any more, is the moment the Spirit leaves us. So it is only to be expected that things change as time goes by in the way of beliefs.

But a person can go in one of three ways! One can change from a belief and thereby depart from truth. On the other hand, it may mean change TO truth. Or, it may mean change from what is error to another error.

So it is rather circular, and really only spinning our wheels, when we compare what we believed and were taught in the past with what we believe differently and are taught differently now. What if BOTH teachings are wrong? How do we know? Everyone says the bible says what they believe, from Mormons to us Apostolics. The bible is not the problem. It's OUR INTERPRETATION of the Bible that can be the problem. Yes, there is ONE interpretation that is correct and all others are wrong. We can say that for every single verse of the bible. Which one is correct? It is the one we must pray about in order for God to show us, and towards which we must be open for correction. If we already know the truth about a verse, then we still should pray for correction, because ultimately only God knows if we do have it right, and he will confirm it if we do.

This is why we must seek God with everything sincere in us, and pray "lead me not into temptation, but deliver me from evil." Pray that God keeps us on, or directs us to, the narrow way which leadeth unto life, where few there be that find it.

That is a great post.

Blessings, Rhoni

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

That is a great post.

Blessings, Rhoni

Thanks, sister.

This issue reminds me... I have often noticed that some people start "freaking out" when they stop to consider, "How do I know I have the truth?" I have spoken to preachers (!) who felt it is too dangerous a road to travel when one seeks for God to speak to them or direct them concerning truth. They reason, "Many killers have claimed God spoke to them about their mission to kill. What if I end up like that?" I am amazed at ministry who claims to serve God is afraid to even consider to reach out to God for verification or correction in regards to truth using this reasoning.

If there is a God, and WE KNOW there is, and His Word shows us quite clealry that we can hear from Him and be directed by Him, through MANY MANY different means, we must settle it that if we ask for an egg He is not going to give us a serpent.

Whether or not there are a billion and one different doctrines in this world, let alone religions, where truth is like a needle in a haystack, God can hear the prayers of the sincere soul and seek that person out and direct them towards truth.

GOD IS REAL!

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Thanks, sister.

This issue reminds me... I have often noticed that some people start "freaking out" when they stop to consider, "How do I know I have the truth?" I have spoken to preachers (!) who felt it is too dangerous a road to travel when one seeks for God to speak to them or direct them concerning truth. They reason, "Many killers have claimed God spoke to them about their mission to kill. What if I end up like that?" I am amazed at ministry who claims to serve God is afraid to even consider to reach out to God for verification or correction in regards to truth using this reasoning.

If there is a God, and WE KNOW there is, and His Word shows us quite clearly that we can hear from Him and be directed by Him, through MANY MANY different means, we must settle it that if we ask for an egg He is not going to give us a serpent.

Whether or not there are a billion and one different doctrines in this world, let alone religions, where truth is like a needle in a haystack, God can hear the prayers of the sincere soul and seek that person out and direct them towards truth.

GOD IS REAL!

The Bible tells us..."they that hunger and thirst after righteousness will be filled.". One way to confirm if it is God talking to you is if what you hear being said is in agreement with the word. There are many voices in the world but the scriptures teach that His sheep Hear His voice and will not follow another.

For many years I was afraid to speak on certain issues because I worried that people would think that I thought I was "so spiritual". One of those issues is talking about the spirit world and how demonic forces work and operate to steal, kill, and destroy. I don't worry about it so much now. If a person truly believes that Christ's spirit is greater than satan's, then there should be no reason to fear.

It is very difficult for some people to dicipher between man's traditions and what truly saith the word of the Lord. Many things have been said from the pulpit that they claimed was God, but it was man...for this very reason we are told to "study to show ourselves approved unto God...", and to "work out our own salvation with fear and trembling."

I do not believe that we should have to live in so much fear that we would rather give up every convenience of pleasure, or fashion of dress just in case God may have a problem with it. The scriptures are clear...we are to be modest and moderate in all things. Surely folks can tell if they are dressed inappropriately..if things are showing that shouldn't be, or too flashy or ornate to draw attention to oneself. It isn't about being so different from the status quo that we are thought to be 'odd'. It is about people seeing your modesty and knowing that you are a child of God and live a holy life.

For the saint who wants to know...I am thankful that our elders who have taught their own 'traditions' have confessed that they were wrong to put more on the people than God intended. I can respect this kind of leader.

What I have trouble with is Pastors who continue to preach things they know are not Biblical just so they can't be accused of "compromize". This makes it about their pride and not about the truth.

Bro. Blume I am enjoying your input on these things. Your wisdom shows.

Blessings, Rhoni