The Folly of an Open Mind

SDG · #1 10-20-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Oh I don't know about that.

I can question God's motives and direction without questioning His divinity or ability.

See Thomas ....

Had to see to believe.

Seems to me John the Baptist was questioning his divinity, also.

Praxeas · #2 10-20-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

See Thomas ....

Had to see to believe.

He was open minded. He was willing to believe something after examining the facts. A close minded person would not even look at the facts or would just deny them. Thanks Dan for the example

SDG · #3 10-20-2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

He was open minded. He was willing to believe something after examining the facts. A close minded person would not even look at the facts or would just deny them. Thanks Dan for the example

Bingo.

Praxeas · #4 10-20-2007, 10:57 PM

BTW Questioning is not necessarily doubting. It really depends on the kinds of questions and how or why. The Bereans were ready to test everything Paul said and rather than chide them for doubt he commended them

SDG · #5 10-20-2007, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

BTW Questioning is not necessarily doubting. It really depends on the kinds of questions and how or why. The Bereans were ready to test everything Paul said and rather than chide them for doubt he commended them

I would agree that there are questions for clarification ... for better understanding ... But John the Baptist's question is wrought w/ doubt.

Are you ... or should we ???

In the beginning of his ministry ... he declared Behold the Lamb. Now he's not too sure.

Praxeas · #6 10-20-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I would agree that there are questions for clarification ... for better understanding ... But John the Baptist's question is wrought w/ doubt.

Are you ... or should we ???

I don't know....remember John was in prison and could not see who this person was. John knew he would die and was to point his followers to the Messiah. He sent disciples to ask if this person was he that was to come. John was not doubting He was the Messiah....he really did not know.

Praxeas · #7 10-20-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't know....remember John was in prison and could not see who this person was. John knew he would die and was to point his followers to the Messiah. He sent disciples to ask if this person was he that was to come. John was not doubting He was the Messiah....he really did not know.

lack of knowledge or information is not necessarily doubt is it?

SDG · #8 10-20-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't know....remember John was in prison and could not see who this person was. John knew he would die and was to point his followers to the Messiah. He sent disciples to ask if this person was he that was to come. John was not doubting He was the Messiah....he really did not know.

He didn't know ??? His life's mission was to prepare the way of the Messiah ...

29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God, 21 who takes away the sin of the world. 30 22 He is the one of whom I said, 'A man is coming after me who ranks ahead of me because he existed before me.' 31 I did not know him, 23 but the reason why I came baptizing with water was that he might be made known to Israel." 32 John testified further, saying, "I saw the Spirit come down like a dove 24 from the sky and remain upon him. 33 I did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, 'On whomever you see the Spirit come down and remain, he is the one who will baptize with the holy Spirit.' 34 25 Now I have seen and testified that he is the Son of God." 35 The next day John was there again with two of his disciples, 36 and as he watched Jesus walk by, he said, "Behold, the Lamb of God." 26 37 The two disciples 27 heard what he said and followed Jesus.

mizpeh · #9 10-20-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't know....remember John was in prison and could not see who this person was. John knew he would die and was to point his followers to the Messiah. He sent disciples to ask if this person was he that was to come. John was not doubting He was the Messiah....he really did not know.

This person was his cousin, Mary and Joseph's son. This person was the one whom the dove lighted upon after being baptized by John. John pointed to Jesus and said, Behold the Lamb of God which takes away the sins of the world.

For some reason John the Baptist was doubting and Dan is right again.

Nahum · #10 10-20-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

This person was his cousin, Mary and Joseph's son. This person was the one whom the dove lighted upon after being baptized by John. John pointed to Jesus and said, Behold the Lamb of God which takes away the sins of the world.

For some reason John the Baptist was doubting and Dan is right again.

I have some info on this that proves differently.

Give me a minute.