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Old 10-21-2007, 08:25 PM
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I believe he took over an AG or former AG church in Hollywood thus the meeting up with jay Baker.

socali, wasn't he still preaching in the UPC while merging withthe above?
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:35 PM
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Sadly, there are many of these gay oneness Pentecostal churches popping up all over the U.S. I know of one in Tampa, Scottsdale, Indianapolis, somewhere in Arkansas, and there are a lot more. A gal I went to JCM with is the music minister at one and she can use scripture to justify her lifestyle, but it's so twisted. Very sad! Almost all of the pastors have UPC roots.
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Almost all of the pastors have UPC roots.
What will REALLY be something is when the ultra-con gay churches start splitting off from the liberal gay churches over TV advertising.
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:16 PM
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What will REALLY be something is when the ultra-con gay churches start splitting off from the liberal gay churches over TV advertising.
Oh, that was BAD!!!!
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:29 PM
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Sadly, there are many of these gay oneness Pentecostal churches popping up all over the U.S. I know of one in Tampa, Scottsdale, Indianapolis, somewhere in Arkansas, and there are a lot more. A gal I went to JCM with is the music minister at one and she can use scripture to justify her lifestyle, but it's so twisted. Very sad! Almost all of the pastors have UPC roots.
Is there an inference here that Oneness Petecostals have a disproportionate number of Gay defectors?
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Is there an inference here that Oneness Petecostals have a disproportionate number of Gay defectors?
Calm down big boy! I thnk she is just making an observation, not an inference.

It is a fact that there are the gay pentecostal churches springing up that she listed and it is a fact that they are pastored and staffed by ex UPCers.

That doesn't mean there are not more non exUPC gay churches but right now the Oneness Gay Pentecostal churches we know about all are ones that have these UPC roots.

It only makes sense since the UPC is one of the largest Oneness denominations. Because there is a lot bigger pool of licensed preachers to start with it is no surprise that many of these gay Oneness Pentecostal churches are staffed by exUPCers.
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ONE is TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many.
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ONE is TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many.
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I just wonder why their bible doesn't seem to include the book of Romans??????
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Is there an inference here that Oneness Petecostals have a disproportionate number of Gay defectors?
Nope, just that most of the oneness Gay churches are pastored by ex-UPC guys. At least the ones in the group that I know of. They are also closely aligned with Carlton Pearson now.

However, four of the guys that I went to Bible college with are dead of AIDS, as well as my vice-president. Many many more are now living a gay lifestyle. I do think that they are drawn to a legalistic system, because the boundaries give them hope of keeping their tendencies under control. At some point though, unless they have been delivered completely, many of them end up acting upon those tendencies anyway.
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Nope, just that most of the oneness Gay churches are pastored by ex-UPC guys. At least the ones in the group that I know of. They are also closely aligned with Carlton Pearson now.

However, four of the guys that I went to Bible college with are dead of AIDS, as well as my vice-president. Many many more are now living a gay lifestyle. I do think that they are drawn to a legalistic system, because the boundaries give them hope of keeping their tendencies under control. At some point though, unless they have been delivered completely, many of them end up acting upon those tendencies anyway.
Sounds like the reason the Catholic Church may have the issues it has been dealing with, that and not allowing the priests to marry.
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