Apostolic Summit - Tulsa, OK - Pastors are now receiving it.

[Tawanda]

Originally Posted by Theresa

Sistah, I need one of them hats NOW!

COGIC is coming up soon.

[Steve Epley]

Secrecy??????????????? They have been discussing this on this forum alone since Tampa?????????
I understand they are sending an invititation to every UPC preacher plus other men not in the UPC.
What type of structure? I have no idea?
I do not plan to join but might very well go. It is interesting to me.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Secrecy??????????????? They have been discussing this on this forum alone since Tampa?????????
I understand they are sending an invititation to every UPC preacher plus other men not in the UPC.
What type of structure? I have no idea?
I do not plan to join but might very well go. It is interesting to me.

if you do go, I might drive up just to meet you!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Ferd

if you do go, I might drive up just to meet you!

I will defintely let you know that would be my pleasure.

I have not spoken to Elders Booker or Godair but I have friends who have talked to them indepth. I really see no need of another organization but if that is their will so be it. My personal fellowship has never been based on organizational affiliation but doctrine-life-ethics so I will continue to fellowship men in and out of any organization regardless of cards or the lack of one.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Secrecy??????????????? They have been discussing this on this forum alone since Tampa?????????
I understand they are sending an invititation to every UPC preacher plus other men not in the UPC.
What type of structure? I have no idea?
I do not plan to join but might very well go. It is interesting to me.

I think they meant "secrecy" about the agenda behind the meeting, not the meeting itself. Just what should attendees expect? Should everyone bring their cards so they can be all burned together in a bonfire at the end? Or is this just a "gripe session"?

Just what are the facilitators facilitating?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I think they meant "secrecy" about the agenda behind the meeting, not the meeting itself. Just what should attendees expect? Should everyone bring their cards so they can be all burned together in a bonfire at the end? Or is this just a "gripe session"?

Just what are the facilitators facilitating?

It is not a secret agenda they are meeting to form a group. I doubt if they have a card burning ceremony.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I think they meant "secrecy" about the agenda behind the meeting, not the meeting itself. Just what should attendees expect? Should everyone bring their cards so they can be all burned together in a bonfire at the end? Or is this just a "gripe session"?

Just what are the facilitators facilitating?

I think you are off base here. There are some whiners like Wholehearted who seem to take great joy in complaining about the UPC but overall I have a feeling that this meeting is very much one about conviction and deeply held beliefs.

The men who are putting on this meeting are all mature seasoned men who I think are not interested in starting a "Bash the UPC Club".

I don't think you are going to see the venom and bitterness that occurred when the AMF was formed.

My biggest question is how long after organizing will it take them to begin taking potshots at themselves! The conservatives tend to think that only their particular brand of "holiness" is the right one and they each believe a little differently on some things many times.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by CC1

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I don't think you are going to see the venom and bitterness that occurred when the AMF was formed.

My biggest question is how long after organizing will it take them to begin taking potshots at themselves! The conservatives tend to think that only their particular brand of "holiness" is the right one and they each believe a little differently on some things many times.

Back in the 1970's I used to get a magazine from the AMF. I believe Bro. Murray Burr was editor. I remember his article on the bramble bush but don't remember much about it. I mentioned this organization to a friend of mine who was a UPC pastor and he just shrugged them off and said, "They don't think they've had church unless they've beaten somebody up."

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by CC1

I think you are off base here. There are some whiners like Wholehearted who seem to take great joy in complaining about the UPC but overall I have a feeling that this meeting is very much one about conviction and deeply held beliefs.

The men who are putting on this meeting are all mature seasoned men who I think are not interested in starting a "Bash the UPC Club".

I don't think you are going to see the venom and bitterness that occurred when the AMF was formed.

My biggest question is how long after organizing will it take them to begin taking potshots at themselves! The conservatives tend to think that only their particular brand of "holiness" is the right one and they each believe a little differently on some things many times.

You're taking the optimistic view, which is admirable and probably best. I'm also looking further down the road where your biggest question comes up.

Most of the guys listed as facilitators are good and kind men. But the whole thing really just seems to smack of the mean-spirited stuff that I lived in for so many years.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by CC1

I think you are off base here. There are some whiners like Wholehearted who seem to take great joy in complaining about the UPC but overall I have a feeling that this meeting is very much one about conviction and deeply held beliefs.

The men who are putting on this meeting are all mature seasoned men who I think are not interested in starting a "Bash the UPC Club".

I don't think you are going to see the venom and bitterness that occurred when the AMF was formed.

My biggest question is how long after organizing will it take them to begin taking potshots at themselves! The conservatives tend to think that only their particular brand of "holiness" is the right one and they each believe a little differently on some things many times.

At this particular time, there are a few similarities which will help keep this group together -for a brief time anyways.
They all agree that:
1) To own a TV is a sin and will ultimately keep you out of heaven
(And yes, the most extreme will make sure to tell everyone how when they stay at a hotel, they cover it up with a towel.)
2) All pants and dresses must come to the ankle and all sleeves must come to the wrist.
3) All music is to be Southern or black gospel
and finally
4) As "the pastor!", I am the most important, touched and anointed, deserving of a double portion, man in MY church.

And on a similar but different note, can you imagine the holiness preaching that will be had by all at this event? I am sure it will be positively orgasmic in nature! I am waiting to hear from some here who snuck in....