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10-27-2007, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
I can wholeheartedly agree with you that it is a process. It don't stop with Belief. It don't stop with Repentance. It don't stop with Water Baptism. It don't stop with Spirit Baptism. And it don't even stop with Holiness living. It is a continual growth, and just like anything living thing, the moment growth is stopped, it usually indicates a death has occurred.
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Praise be to God! (And kudos to TrulyBlessed)
We're starting to walk on merger ground here.
I, being what this forum would call PCI, would say that a man is as saved when he repents from dead works and places his faith in the Living God as he will ever be this side of Glory, if he continues . . .
A PAJCer like StMatthew would say that a man is as saved as he will ever be this side of Glory after he completes Acts 2:38, if he continues . . .
StMatthew isn't saying that a life of holiness is not essential, and I'm not saying that baptism is optional; we are both expecting the same obedience from converts, and our difference is not found in how to be saved, but rather at what point salvation begins.
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10-27-2007, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf
Praise be to God! (And kudos to TrulyBlessed)
We're starting to walk on merger ground here.
I, being what this forum would call PCI, would say that a man is as saved when he repents from dead works and places his faith in the Living God as he will ever be this side of Glory, if he continues . . .
A PAJCer like StMatthew would say that a man is as saved as he will ever be this side of Glory after he completes Acts 2:38, if he continues . . .
StMatthew isn't saying that a life of holiness is not essential, and I'm not saying that baptism is optional; we are both expecting the same obedience from converts, and our difference is not found in how to be saved, but rather at what point salvation begins. |
There is absolutely no salvation outside of Acts 2:38. The PCI were wrong back then at the merger, and anyone who still adheres to PCI doctrine concerning Salvation is wrong.
PAJCers say it best that a man is as saved as he will ever be this side of Glory after he completes Acts 2:38, if he continues . . .
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10-27-2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Caston Smith
There is absolutely no salvation outside of Acts 2:38. The PCI were wrong back then at the merger, and anyone who still adheres to PCI doctrine concerning Salvation is wrong.
PAJCers say it best that a man is as saved as he will ever be this side of Glory after he completes Acts 2:38, if he continues . . . |
CS, Have I mentioned that I have some suspenders very much like yours?
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-28-2007, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
CS, Have I mentioned that I have some suspenders very much like yours?
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I doubt you do ... mine are custom made in that they don't have any gold appearance on them, and they attach to my pants inside the waist with buttons.
I don't believe in wearing any appearance of gold, including belt buckles.
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10-28-2007, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Caston Smith
I doubt you do ... mine are custom made in that they don't have any gold appearance on them, and they attach to my pants inside the waist with buttons.
I don't believe in wearing any appearance of gold, including belt buckles.
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Dude I hope you are joking.
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10-29-2007, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Miller
Dude I hope you are joking.
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No, I'm not joking .... this is the kind of belt I wear. No gold or silver in the front.
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10-29-2007, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Caston Smith
No, I'm not joking .... this is the kind of belt I wear. No gold or silver in the front.
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That is cool. If that is what you want to wear all the time. I won't say that I would never wear a belt that didn't have gold on it. I don't think that people can preach against ones that do though.
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10-28-2007, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Caston Smith
I doubt you do ... mine are custom made in that they don't have any gold appearance on them, and they attach to my pants inside the waist with buttons.
I don't believe in wearing any appearance of gold, including belt buckles.
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Nice. Did I mention I was Old Order Mennonite (like Amish) until I left as an adult? You are way to worldly for my people. Your church probably allows radios and cameras.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-28-2007, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Caston Smith
I doubt you do ... mine are custom made in that they don't have any gold appearance on them, and they attach to my pants inside the waist with buttons.
I don't believe in wearing any appearance of gold, including belt buckles.
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Does this include a shining personality?
Sorry, Bro. I just couldn't help myself.... my humble apologies.
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10-28-2007, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Caston Smith
I doubt you do ... mine are custom made in that they don't have any gold appearance on them, and they attach to my pants inside the waist with buttons.
I don't believe in wearing any appearance of gold, including belt buckles.
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Well! My oh my! This is very impressive to be sure!
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