How Many "3 Steppers" Do We Have On Aff???

Sam · #1 10-28-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

Clarified as such, no, spiritual birth is the instantaneous work of Christ.

an instantaneous work of Christ?

How can that be?

If repentance, water baptism in Jesus' Name, and the HGB (speaking with tongues) are all steps/parts of the new birth,
then we have some people going through the water baptism birth and the Spirit baptism birth at separate times and places. Spirit baptism birth may happen in one geographical area and water baptism birth (baptismal regeneration) may happen in another geographical location. And these experiences can not only be miles (even separate countries) apart but can be years apart in timing. And, for those who only experience the Spirit baptism birth or only the water baptism birth, are they half way regenerated, half way saved, or totally lost?

Sam · #2 10-28-2007, 08:46 PM

"If you believe that Jesus is the Christ --that he is God's Son and your Savior-- then you are a child of God. And all who love the Father love his children too." 1 John 5:1 TLB

crakjak · #3 10-28-2007, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam

an instantaneous work of Christ?

How can that be?

If repentance, water baptism in Jesus' Name, and the HGB (speaking with tongues) are all steps/parts of the new birth,
then we have some people going through the water baptism birth and the Spirit baptism birth at separate times and places. Spirit baptism birth may happen in one geographical area and water baptism birth (baptismal regeneration) may happen in another geographical location. And these experiences can not only be miles (even separate countries) apart but can be years apart in timing. And, for those who only experience the Spirit baptism birth or only the water baptism birth, are they half way regenerated, half way saved, or totally lost?

It is the work of Christ instantaneously in the individual by grace thru faith alone. Everything else comes as result of what Jesus has already done. Though I believe everyone will eventually enter into reconciliation with God, the path is thru faith in what Jesus did on the cross.