A Word About Drinking, Drunks, and Those Who Rejoice in Their Sin

[SDG]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Here's all I know:

1. The Bible clearly defines drunkenness as a sin.

2. It does not clearly define drinking (in moderation, presumably withOUT becoming drunk) as a sin.

3. It DOES, however, strongly discourage Kings, Princes and Bishops from drinking at all. (Scripture references available for those who care.)

4. Culturally, it isn't wise, considering the overindulgence that IS a problem, especially among college age young people.

5. From a Christian perspective, should we associate ourselves with a habit that can break down families, cause a lack of good judgment, and turn perfectly nice people into monsters? To name a FEW....


6. What is the benefit of drinking, other than pleasure? Can anyone present a list of pros that is anywhere near the list of cons in size? (Don't bother with the "health" benefits. You can receive the same benefits from other sources.)

Why would you want to use something even occasionally that your children could become addicted to, and subsequently ruin their lives with?

My Daddy was a mean drunk, so I've been told through my mother and siblings who had to suffer through it. The fact that he later became a Christian did NOT undo their emotional pain. I know another member of this forum whose sister was killed by a drunk driver. I'm sure there are more than a few members who have struggled with alcoholism in the past, and as Christians we are NOT supposed to be stumbling blocks. Some users here probably had parents who abused them when they were drunk.

Biblical points aside, the insensitivity on this issue is shocking. Our western culture is not a culture of restraint, which places alcohol use in a whole different category than it was in Bible days.

BY the way...

I Corinthians 6:10 "...Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Anyone want to guess what "drunkard" means?

Are you ready?

methusos
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From G3184; tipsy, that is, (as noun) a sot: - drunkard.

This one , Miss Brat. The one that defines tipsy ... as that is, [as noun] - drunkard .... NOT AN ADJECTIVE .... BUT AS A DRUNKARD.

AND YES AGREE BEING A DRUNKARD IS SIN !!!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

This one , Miss Brat. The one that defines tipsy ... as that is, [as noun] - drunkard .... NOT AN ADJECTIVE .... BUT AS A DRUNKARD.

AND YES AGREE BEING A DRUNKARD IS SIN !!!

I don't understand your point. I didn't make up the definition; I took it directly from Strong's. What is your objection exactly? I just thought it was interesting that "tipsy" was included in the definition.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I don't understand your point. I didn't make up the definition; I took it directly from Strong's. What is your objection exactly? I just thought it was interesting that "tipsy" was included in the definition.

Clearly you sought to make us believe ... with your intro ....

Anyone want to guess what "drunkard" means?

Are you ready?

That somehow tipsy denotes our modern definition. Strong was clear when we read his ENTIRE DEFINITION.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Clearly you sought to make us believe ... with your intro ....

That somehow tipsy denotes our modern definition. Strong was clear when we read his ENTIRE DEFINITION.

I didn't seek to "make you believe" anything, Daniel, and I resent the implication. I purposely included the entire definition. If I were practicing subterfuge, I would have only included the word I found most interesting. Instead, I provided a complete definition of the word.

I was equally clear. I said, "drunkard" means: and then I posted the definition.

And as to your point...you can't exclude "tipsy" from the definition, simply because of usage. The contextual meaning would still remain intact, even in a different part of speech.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Clearly you sought to make us believe ... with your intro ....



That somehow tipsy denotes our modern definition. Strong was clear when we read his ENTIRE DEFINITION.

Dan what is the difference between tipsy and drunk and at what point can we quantify when we know that to be true?