Justification By Faith by Oswald Chambers

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Wrong.

Luk 13:3 KJV I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.


WHAT DOES PERISH MEAN?



Some will Perish, since they did not repent. And PERISH implies nothing about temporary punishment, but to destroy fully. Repentance saves from perishing.

I appreicate your much more merciful end of the majority of mankind, but I believe God is much more effective in His saving of those created in His image. God is not punitive, that is a characteristic of fallen man, it is not about punishment, it is about correction.

Luke 13:3 Is referring to a temporal perishing, not permanent annihilation. Those folks will be resurrected with the wicked dead, so it is not permanent. Why raise them just to annihilate them again?

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

You know what Jesus was referring to; that unless they believed on Him they would likewise physically die in the destruction coming in 70 AD. He goes on to lament over Jerusalem toward the end of that very chapter.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by crakjak

I appreicate your much more merciful end of the majority of mankind, but I believe God is much more effective in His saving of those created in His image. God is not punitive, that is a characteristic of fallen man, it is not about punishment, it is about correction.

Luke 13:3 Is referring to a temporal perishing, not permanent annihilation. Those folks will be resurrected with the wicked dead, so it is not permanent. Why raise them just to annihilate them again?

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

You know what Jesus was referring to; that unless they believed on Him they would likewise physically die in the destruction coming in 70 AD. He goes on to lament over Jerusalem toward the end of that very chapter.

PERISH means to totally destroy. Come now, you emphasize ALL means ALL. What about PERISH meaning total destruction?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by mfblume

PERISH means to totally destroy. Come now, you emphasize ALL means ALL. What about PERISH meaning total destruction?

Do you believe the context of Luke 13 is speaking of total destruction?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by mfblume

PERISH means to totally destroy. Come now, you emphasize ALL means ALL. What about PERISH meaning total destruction?

All those who did not repent, did perish in the destruction of Jerusalem and Judea, unless, of course,if they perished in physical death prior to 70 AD. Again, total destruction of the physical body is not permanent.